<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I am greatly relieved to hear this news, though it is both disappointing and disturbing that the concern is still over Jay being "wronged". No one seems to understand how utterly terrified I was, then living on the street, of this incredibly adept <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">& manipulative psychotic sociopath who heard voices and threatened to kill also living in that world.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br>
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Yet, despite my fear of him, despite VERY intense pressure by people at Noisebridge to say with absolute certainty that I saw things I had no clear memory of seeing, I persevered in holding my moral compass true. I refused to bear false witness, did not pick a microscope out of pictures as one I'd seen, and did not lie. My recorded statement given to Danny bears this out. Yet, even that wasn't enough, as *I* was then accused of stealing the microscope in order to frame Jay.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br>
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">I personally paid for this in terms of my reputation & character at Noisebridge more than people are willing to acknowledge, yet I bear no ill will to anyone. I really appreciate Danny's reminder as it is a good one, but Jay is by far from the only victim. Noisebridge is the far greater one.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br>
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">I am thankful for those few who stood by me and for those who taught me to have the strength and character to simply "do the right thing," whether popular or not. For whether liked or disliked, whether on a wet cardboard box or a comfy safe warm dry bed, I know myself and what is right. It starts as a habit and ends as character.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br>
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Peace and thank you- Duncan</span></div>
<div><br>On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Danny O'Brien <<a href="mailto:danny@spesh.com">danny@spesh.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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a while ago it seemed that a certain person had stolen it, because someone<br>
thought they had seen that person selling a microscope on the street and<br>
we noticed it was missing. It seems that person must have been selling a<br>
different stolen microscope, because it apparently wasn't this one.<br></blockquote><div><br>I appreciate you posting this, when you could have also just not said anything publicly on the list. But I don't think you're being entirely honest with yourself or others when you give that as the most likely conclusion. <br>
<br>I think being suddenly vague about who it was that was accused and who did the accusing, and then concluding that, well, heck, the only explanation must be that the possibly-imaginary microscope must have been stolen from someone *else*, is just compounding the earlier error. We have to be as honest as we can with ourselves.<br>
<br>Here's how I would describe what happened:<br><br>"a while ago a lot of us believed that Jay had stolen it, because Duncan<br>
thought they had seen that person selling something from Noisebridge on the street and<br>
we noticed the microscope was missing. We screwed up, probably because lots of us were<br>mad at Jay for another reason entirely."<br><br>If we're not honest about the mistakes we made, we're going to risk repeating them. People find themselves mobbing someone they don't like or who did something wrong with lots of extra accusations, and talking themselves into believing the worst of them.<br>
<br>I'm personally trying to work myself up to apologizing to Jay -- we all have his email address. <br><br>We should also talk about this at the meeting. Some of our systems for preventing this kind of mistake worked, and some of them didn't, and we can always improve them.<br>
<br>d.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
-jake<br>
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