"noisebridge has a lot to offer the homeless" is not at all the point, I think. �Lots of places have lots of things to offer the homeless; and it seems to be a repeating pattern that wherever people offer a space to the homeless, the homeless make the space something nobody else wants to be in. �this has happened to the public libraries, it has happened to public parks, it has happened to all the lovely public squares around city hall.<div>
<br></div><div>Honestly, I do not feel at all obligated to provide services to the homeless at Noisebridge. �Lots of spaces provide services to the homeless here in San Francisco. �We should focus on providing services to hackers.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And before someone says "what about homeless hackers" maybe just save your cleverness for a giant robot, hmmm?</div><div><br></div><div>--S<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM, jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com">jim@systemateka.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
� �Seems to me that Noisebridge has a lot to offer homeless<br>
and SRO dwellers and others in constrained circumstances: Our<br>
tools and LAN and library and such seem a really good fit.<br>
<br>
and....<br>
� �Thanks for the link to Getting_in ; I have to say that<br>
none of it seemed workable for me, some of it was beyond my<br>
experience to make sense out of it<br>
<br>
Run this<br>
1f8b0808214c384e00036e6f6973656272696467655f676f6c662e736800<br>
� 1dccbd0e82301440e1dda7b861b913342e6ec64466df80012bb7d04be5a7<br>
� ad94367d7809f3c977e833cc804b34ba32516e1c9c54962bc3946c4d9c1e<br>
� 13ebfb2b0639f2f34c98bd85a2a5d3d5e10b8a67dbc9f734426fe23238d8<br>
� 68f7b0fe74c2eca88392009d00217a6c8b432e564f5e0136fbed8a6d998a<br>
� 0cc73141232e7f46c143d68d000000<br>
Hint:<br>
cat noisebridge_golf|xxd -r -p|gunzip<br>
<br>
I'm familiar with Unix shells. It makes no sense to me to run<br>
the text blob; and the cat command makes no sense without<br>
knowing on what machine and with what current directory to<br>
pipe the cat command to the xxd command.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 15:33 -0800, Tao wrote:<br>
> Chris rocks. He was talking about one of the awesome ways listed at <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Getting_In" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Getting_In</a><br>
><br>
> I am really deeply offended at the presumption and accusation that he was breaking in. We need to treat each other with respect.<br>
><br>
> I have plenty of friends who are homeless or living in an SRO or other nonstandard living conditions, and that says nothing about their ability to be a hacker or an opera singer. There is no reason to be prejudiced.<br>
><br>
> What matters is your attitude, use of the space, and care for it.<br>
><br>
> Peace,<br>
> Tao<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Feb 11, 2012, at 14:34, Christopher Maujean <<a href="mailto:cmaujean@gmail.com">cmaujean@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, maestro <<a href="mailto:maestro415@gmail.com">maestro415@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> # +1 jim...<br>
> >> # i am very interested to know this as well...<br>
> >> # are you breaking into noisebridge hence showing others on the street (that<br>
> >> you don't even know are watching you, and everyone is ALWAYS watching in the<br>
> >> mission and you won't see them) how to get in...<br>
> >> # perhaps this is why so many dodgy fucks have started getting in and are<br>
> >> attracted to the door...<br>
> >> # word of mouth is quick on the streets...<br>
> >><br>
> >> end comments<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 AM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>> ...<br>
> >>> � �i'm curious to know how you get in without buzzing.<br>
> >>> people are different; seems better not to judge, at least<br>
> >>> not right away.<br>
> >>><br>
> ><br>
> > As far as getting in goes, I open the front door using the methods<br>
> > listed on the wiki, meaning, I walk up to the door, manipulate my<br>
> > phone for a moment, and the door unlocks. I go inside, firmly shut it<br>
> > behind me, climb the stairs, and use the space, I've never let anyone<br>
> > in for any reason, and don't plan to until I possibly gain membership<br>
> > in the future, at which point I'll consider the concept.<br>
> ><br>
> > My earlier point about myself was, don't judge people for being<br>
> > homeless or living in an SRO, judge them for using the space<br>
> > inappropriately. Having a standard living situation is not a<br>
> > prerequisite to being a hacker.<br>
> ><br>
> > --Christopher<br>
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