<div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">� �Whatever hacking is, the idea of Noisebridge has been to<br>
bring together people with diverse interests with the hope of<br>cross-pollinating various arts and technologies. That's best<br>done with a welcoming attitude, and that seems largely missing<br>from the recent discussions.<br>
� �Tell me I'm wrong.</blockquote><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br></div><div class="h5">No your not wrong... � and thats sad.�</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:03 PM, jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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� �I'm surprised. really.<br>
� �I __meant__ the homeless hackers, as in starving hacker<br>
(our cut-rate deal for the down-and-out but enthusiastic)--<br>
I did not mean all homeless.<br>
� �Someone who's broke, maybe homeless or sro or otherwise<br>
constrained, __and__ who's interested in some kind of hacking,<br>
might find Noisebridge a really helpful place (unless, of<br>
course, that person encountered some established types who'd<br>
grown unhappy with some bad state of Noisebridge and turned<br>
sour on scruffy people, as if they might be good scapegoats).<br>
<br>
� �My point is not to offer a space to the homeless, but<br>
rather "don't judge people by their homeless appearances: � <-----!!!<br>
they might be hackers or at least hackerly inclined."<br>
<br>
� �This whole discussion has a bad smell to it. There is a<br>
problem, but the discussion doesn't seem positively to address<br>
it, whatever the problem is. If you don't like people sleeping<br>
here, tell them; if you feel weird about that, then get a gang<br>
together and all tell them (and maybe you can hide at the back<br>
of the crowd).<br>
<br>
� �If you want to hack, whatever that means to you, as<br>
Crutcher's sign said, "shut up and hack!"<br>
<br>
� �And maybe good to ask "what __is__ hacking, anyway, and to<br>
whom?" Seriously.<br>
<br>
� �Whatever hacking is, the idea of Noisebridge has been to<br>
bring together people with diverse interests with the hope of<br>
cross-pollinating various arts and technologies. That's best<br>
done with a welcoming attitude, and that seems largely missing<br>
from the recent discussions.<br>
<br>
� �Tell me I'm wrong.<br>
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