<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>We don't benefit from making this into a battle.</div><div>Everybody involved had Noisebridge's interests at heart.</div><div><br></div><div>It's apparently very important to be able to add a consensus item to Noisebridge alterations, to prevent them from being tossed out, to even make it clear what they are.</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe the group would like the speakers to stay, but the rack to go, and the tools to be better labeled. I see the need for discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>What is the protocol? If there isn't one, how can you make one?</div><div><br>Peace,</div><div>Tao</div><div><br>On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:33, John Ellis <<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com">neurofog@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>This wasn't a do-acracy, this was a slap in the face directed at Jim. If you can word a better consensus item regarding the difference between "being a dick" and "doacracy" go ahead.<div><br></div><div>
-John<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Gopiballava Flaherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gopiballava@gmail.com" target="_blank">gopiballava@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I think we should add a consensus item to clarify the meaning of do-acracy. </div><div><br></div><div>I thought it meant that a willingness to actually implement meant your idea was more likely to be accepted. A reminder that we don't have staff or taxation. It seems like some people think it means that they can implement anything if they're willing to do it. </div>
<div><br>Thanks,<div><br></div><div>gopi@iPhone</div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div><br>On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:25, John Ellis <<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" target="_blank">neurofog@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Tao,</div><div><br></div>Yea +1, This whole thread is WTF worthy. Jim is trying to teach a regular study group, so I think he should be able to keep class related stuff in the classroom.<div>
<br></div><div>Should we add a consensus item "Keep LSG stuff in the classroom"?<br>
<div><br></div><div>-John<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Tao Neuendorffer Flaherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neuendorffer@googlemail.com" target="_blank">neuendorffer@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This conversation bothers me.<br>
Tom: If the items are not removed after next week's meeting, I plan to do-ocratically remove them.<br>
jim: I have an amp and a couple of small speakers there for use in the classroom (to go along with the use of the projector).<br>
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Nobody comments on the fact that jim is trying to improve the classroom for use with many classes; they just move his stuff to the e-waste pile.<br>
<br>
Yes, trashing stuff is do-ocratic, but shouldn't there be a way to add to Noisebridge as well?<br>
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Peace,<br>
Tao<br>
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On Feb 16, 2012, at 17:53, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com" target="_blank">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The portable rack is there for the use of the Linux<br>
> study group people. The machines used to be in the rack<br>
> for the space; I moved them out so's to save electricity.<br>
> I have an amp and a couple of small speakers there<br>
> for use in the classroom (to go along with the use of<br>
> the projector).<br>
> There have been discussions of how to improve the<br>
> Turing room, and as the corners don't work too well for<br>
> table work areas, one thought has been to build some kind<br>
> of shelf to store stuff for the use in the classroom,<br>
> including demo computers, projector stuff, and<br>
> accompanying audio stuff, along with white board supplies<br>
> and whatever else people feel would support classroom use.<br>
><br>
> In addition to that and whatever else is in the room,<br>
> I have a bin of electrical parts and tools from my stash<br>
> that I use to improve Noisebridge's electrical systems. It<br>
> has a tarp over it.<br>
> Note that when we moved into the space we have had a<br>
> build-out policy that people doing work to improve the<br>
> space can leave their tools there if they label them. My<br>
> tarp has served so far as a label. The electrical work<br>
> (and some other things) is not done.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 17:33 -0800, Tom wrote:<br>
>> In Turing right now, there are a number of things that look like<br>
>> towers, amps, and other blackbox electronic doohickies. If they are<br>
>> your, please put them on your shelf: that's what it's there for.<br>
>> Turing is not a storage space. If the items are not removed after next<br>
>> week's meeting, I plan to do-ocratically remove them.<br>
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