<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Andy Isaacson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adi@hexapodia.org">adi@hexapodia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 07:04:39PM -0700, Gopiballava Flaherty wrote:<br>
> On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:<br>
> > Yeah, but it's not the first time. Any way we can make the contact<br>
> > details *even clearer*?<br>
><br>
> You mean, any way that you can convince the FBI, in advance, that we<br>
> didn't do it, no matter what it is? Good luck with that :)<br>
<br>
</div>The problem is, we want to convey the following:<br>
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1. email <a href="mailto:admin@noisetor.net">admin@noisetor.net</a> for issues with these IPs.<br>
2. call $PHONENUMBER if that's not fast enough.<br>
3. If you *must* go somewhere here's our Market St address.<br>
<br>
We've had two contacts so far where the results have been:<br>
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1. they email our upstream rather than us, delaying the response.<br>
2. they call a different number.<br>
3. they come to 2169 for issues about noisetor.<br>
<br>
I agree, clarification may be in order. Anybody care to look at the<br>
whois info on <a href="tel:173.254.216.66" value="+17325421666">173.254.216.66</a> aka <a href="http://exit-01a.noisetor.net" target="_blank">exit-01a.noisetor.net</a> and let us know<br>
how to make it clearer?<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
-andy</font></span>:<br></blockquote></div><br>The registrar for Noisetor.net is <span id="registry_whois">GANDI SAS.</span><br><br>I can't find this contact info on <a href="http://noisetor.net">noisetor.net</a> or <a href="tel:173.254.216.66" value="+17325421666">173.254.216.66</a>.<br>
<br>Those would be the FIRST places I would look to find anyone's contact info, personally, but I'm no FBI agent. (Really! >_>)<br><br>It's also possible that anyone could confuse "noisetor" with "noisebridge" and thus presume 2169 is the place to be anyway, even if you made contact info very obvious.<br>
<br>UNFORTUNATELY, 2169 is an extreme dead end of dead ends because we do not host any exit nodes in the physical space ANYWAY. If the agents did any bit of background, or knew how to hop into irc, they would know all of this already, and they possibly do know this but want an excuse to fish for info in person, or they possibly did no background research online and just want to putter around aimlessly irl and enjoy running into dead ends. Maybe dead ends require less paper work. Maybe the reason they state for investigating the space is misleading and they want to find out something entirely different. I'm not an FBI agent, so I wouldn't really know if they file paperwork at all, or lie about their intentions, but I imagine there is a lot of irl puttering about, based on the number of agents who show up at 2169 because somebody SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD used tor to access their twittarz.<br>
<br>OMG, SOMEBODY LOGGED INTO TWITTER OVER TOR. Send in the black helicopters.<br><br>WAIT, YOU MEAN TWITTER LOGS IPS?! AND DISCLOSES THEM TO THE GOVERNMENT??<br><br>....<br><br><br>This episode also raises an important question in my mind: who buzzed the FBI agents into the space? <br>
<br>(O.K., so technically Corey did not say they were in the space; it's possible he spoke with them downstairs outside the gate, but I somehow am just not picturing that.)<br><br>-- <br>-Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails<br>
............. _@y<br><br>