duplicate msg. >>><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:32 AM, maestro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maestro415@gmail.com" target="_blank">maestro415@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><b><i>> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:16px;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">I got into a small disagreement with someone tonight and found that ultimately he (and friends) felt whippets > were legal (they're not, except strict medical use), 100% safe, and since alcohol was being served I should > be upset about that too.</span></i></b><div>
<font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><b><i><br></i></b></font></div></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">they're right.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">it's not up to anyone to say "oh, this drug is fine @NB but THIS one not at all."</font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br>
</font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">if it's fine for someone to drink booze at the space, then it's fine for me or anyone else to drink electric kool-aid, morning glory, ayuhuasca, or anything else and take anything else.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">i was not @ the party just read your post.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">keep in mind there are also beings at the space taking psychological medication(s) and giving them/trading them to others.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">your approach method was correct as long as non-confrontational but i recommend you do so if/when there are malicious behavior issues and/or damage occurring to the space.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">not merely due to an issue with a substance someone is ingesting compared to others.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">also keep in mind it was a special occasion so beings were more likely to be 'open' with things...</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif" size="3">\m@e$tr0/<br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Zach <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:organic_unity@yahoo.com" target="_blank">organic_unity@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">So I'm at Noisebridge now talking with some people that still feel very strongly that the use of Nitrous Oxide here at NBs party on Sunday was okay. Sadly, at least one of these people is a member of the space and a regular.</div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
To sum up what happened: During NB's 4 year anniversary party this last Sunday there were a handful of people near the
sewing machines doing Nitrous (i.e. whippets) for hours. I have never seen anything like this in the space before and I felt extremely uncomfortable, especially since some were regulars to the space. <br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">I approached these people, told them I was feeling very uncomfortable around this and calmly asked if people could do this somewhere else outside the space. I know people smoke out front all the time and I didn't see why people couldn't just move things elsewhere. I told them what they do with their body is their choice and I wasn't trying to dictate anything around that.</div>
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"it's a party dude, cmon" was the gist of what I got. </div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
I had a couple friends in the space, one who rarely visits and they were extremely uncomfortable too. One of my friends left early because of it. <br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">I got into a small disagreement with someone tonight and found that ultimately he (and friends) felt whippets were legal (they're not, except strict medical use), 100% safe, and since alcohol was being served I should be upset about that too.</div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
I told him I respected his point of view but I would like to bring this up to a meeting because ultimately I do not want to be around this kind of thing. If whippets are going to be allowed only at
"parties" that's fine, I won't come to any.</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
There seem to be some very strong opinions about drug use in this space being okay that I was not aware of until now. I think what people do on their own time is their own business. But I don't see why a worker/hacker space has to have drugs. If people feel that whippets, pot, pills, etc. should be used in this space (i.e. not outside) with no questions asked that is the community's choice and I will choose to spend my time elsewhere.</div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">There are plenty of places in SF to do whippets and any other kind of drugs people wish to and I don't understand why NB member(s) feel strongly that they should be done here. <br>
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I will be here until a little after 8 to see if people are coming for a meeting tonight. I guess they've been informal recently but if anyone wants to talk I'll be around.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
</font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">Zach</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
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