or we could aim a webcam at the shelves and the entrance to the space so we could easily see someone walking out with an entire rubbermade container. But of course /that/ will never happen. BTW how are we on tin foil? should we go get some more just in case? :P<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
People already have the option of putting stuff in containers, if it fits.<br>
People already have the option of putting locks on those containers, if they want to be assed with constantly locking and unlocking their cubbie every time they want to access a thing they are hacking on, or to get another part.<br>
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also, putting a lock on something marks it as valuable. Maybe the theif will simply take the whole cubbie. That would suck. But they took the donation bin because they couldn't open it.<br>
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I think what we need is improved security at noisebridge. We are looking into RFID tags but we should also do fun things to catch theives, like booby-trapped goodies on the member shelves.<br>
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If I am in the member shelves and I pick up an interesting item on someone else's shelf, and suddenly a siren and a flashing light goes off, and everyone comes to see what it was, and i'm trapped in the member shelves, i'll have to admit that i regularly look through other peoples stuff to see what they're hacking on (but not to take anything without permission)<br>
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if Joe Speedfreak from the mission is back there and the alarms go off, people will probably decide he has to leave and not let him in again.<br>
He doesn't even have a reason to be back there.<br>
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We should also improve the wall at the end of the hacker alley, so that there is a more clearly defined line between general noisebridge and the proprietary member shelves. For example, Harvey has some stuff on the floor next to the sewing machines, so we should build a shelf there so that he and Dan can store their stuff in a more conventional way.<br>
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And also, there is a lot of stuff back there that belongs to nobody, and is taking up a lot of space, and we should figure out how to reduce it.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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-jake</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Robert Atkins <ratkins at <a href="http://fastmail.fm" target="_blank">fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br>
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I'm not a member. If I were visiting San Francisco for more than a couple of months I would be. I think what you're all doing (and the principles behind the way you're doing it) is excellent. You're all awesome. Unsolicited observations follow.<br>
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I would intuit that if the member shelves were populated with lidded totes, the stuff in the totes would be dicked with rarely if at all. I would say they wouldn't even need to be locked. In that kind of place, the "affordance" of stuff being in a closed box would keep honest people honest and anyone who was truly an asshole thief would defeat any trivial security measure (like a lock) anyhow.<br>
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The best part about this is, if you want your stuff on the member shelves to be more secure, buy a tote with a lid and put your stuff in there! If you don't care, don't. Radical self reliance FTW!<br>
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Cheers, Robert.<br>
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