<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">I agree with anarchas. It's a subtle issue a lot of people miss. Going to college and hanging out with white middle class frat-boys that make jokes about rape/groping/'slapping her around' etc is another very common way rape culture is reinforced. whats important is the "culture" part of that phrase. Its an ideological (often unconscious) form of thinking that supports-if even very subtly- the notions that sexual violence is okay. Jokes and attempts at humor are a common way people do this knowing or unknowingly. I grew up around it so I know it very well and I think men are often victims to it too since our media and many movies put rape in the comical and trivial foreground of society. Its one of the largest problems of modern society
and one of the most hushed-up secrets that people dont want to think or talk about appropriately or seriously. </SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"></SPAN> </div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">When the statute of limitation on rape is 5 years and its one of the least reported violent acts of our time, you know theres a real problem there.<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><BR></div>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr contentEditable=false readonly="true"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> anarchas <anarchas@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:02 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Preventing Hacker Rape Culture<BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>Who the fuck cares about whether or not they're consciously<BR>"advocating"?! That's entirely orthogonal to the issue which is whether<BR>they're effectively reinforcing a cultural environment that<BR>significantly underpins the
widespread existence of rape in our society.<BR>Sexual harassment and assault ARE part of rape culture because they<BR>normalize certain contexts, perceptions, narratives, etc that build,<BR>encourage, embolden and defend rapists.<BR><BR><BR>On 10/26/2012 09:14 PM, Ever Falling wrote:<BR>> I think acting inappropriately and behaving in sexually harassing ways<BR>> don't quite extend all the way to advocating sexual violence and rape so i<BR>> think maybe "rape culture" is too strong a term to be applied here. I think<BR>> even those idiots who can't keep their hands to themselves and can't<BR>> respect personal space would have to stop and say "whoa now who said<BR>> anything about supporting rape?". I think sexual harassment seems like a<BR>> more fitting term to use.<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"
ymailto="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</A><BR><A href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss" target=_blank>https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</A><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>