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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I too applaud your taking on teaching
this class, however I have a few comments.<br>
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Newsgroups are a great resource for asking for help when you're
stuck. Granted, a "search" doesn't always help (though sometimes
it does).<br>
<br>
I'd also like to caution against using language like "how most
people in the real world". Plenty of real websites don't use
jQuery. Do you have any statistics to back that statement up? I'm
not saying jQuery isn't popular or useful. I think it is both. But
as a pedagog, it's important to discuss which alternatives exist,
and why you are teaching the particular thing instead of an
alternative. Even if the answer is "because it's what I know". <br>
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On 1/13/13 10:13 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Garrett,
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<div style="">This is a class for beginners getting into web
development. I've already taught a few classes on beginner
JavaScript and have encouraged good coding along the way, but
I can only do so much for an introduction class. I have
covered HTML, and learning about how most people in the real
world program websites (by using jQuery and its plugins) is
important - a newsgroup search isn't going to help most
beginners. Additionally, I think API design, feature testing,
and even an emphasis on coding style and guidelines, are out
of the scope of this class. Introducing these topics to people
just learning to code seems to me like it would be
overwhelming to most.</div>
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<div style="">I wholeheartedly recommend that you avail yourself
as a resource to teach these important, but more advanced,
topics. Start a class! The more who contribute, the better.</div>
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<div style="">Jeffrey</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM,
Garrett Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com" target="_blank">dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com</a>></span>
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1/13/13, Jeffrey Carl Faden <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
Hi Jeffrey -<br>
<div class="im">> On Monday, we're going back to the
"professional" site we put together a<br>
> number of weeks ago:<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jeffreyatw.com/static/frontend/series3/class13/noiseco.zip"
target="_blank">http://jeffreyatw.com/static/frontend/series3/class13/noiseco.zip</a><br>
> and adding more functionality to it with some jQuery
plugins. We'll<br>
> introduce Bootstrap (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/"
target="_blank">http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/</a>)
and jQuery UI (<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jqueryui.com/" target="_blank">http://jqueryui.com/</a>)
to make common web development tasks easier.<br>
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I appreciate such volunteering to teach people things.
Especially so<br>
late at night.<br>
<br>
I'm not trying take anything away from what you're doing and
just<br>
wanted to suggest instead of looking at jQuery*, I can help
with<br>
questions and finding the right resources for HTML, feature
testing,<br>
and API design/SOLID principles (like anything but
w3schools, right?)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
Garrett<br>
Twitter: @xkit<br>
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*<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/search?group=comp.lang.javascript&q=jquery&qt_g=Search+this+group"
target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/search?group=comp.lang.javascript&q=jquery&qt_g=Search+this+group</a><br>
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