<div dir="ltr">What about Dual Authentication, there's the usual form of authentication downstairs, key/code/hack/etc, put an additional lock on the upstairs door. This would address a lot of issues, including that ppl randomly buzzed in are still greeted at the door by being actually let in.<div>
<br></div><div style>Security/Control/Access, should be layered, no, risk management 101?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Not complaining, but that would require ensuring those already holding codes attended the proper classes, so as to ensure statements of fact in the test are not later invalidated by Old Heads.<br>
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Mike is certainly not a quartermaster; has he renounced the title of ombudsman as well? It's a sad day when you can't go to Mike with your troubles.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br>
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Danny O'Brien <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danny@spesh.com" target="_blank">danny@spesh.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Nicholas Granado <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ngranado@gmail.com" target="_blank">ngranado@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
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<div dir="ltr">ah the code pad on the inside is brilliant!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br>I like it!<br><br>Okay, to push this to the point where people *do* complain... what do people think about the idea that getting a code to open the door involves going through some kind of cultural briefing -- like attending a Noisebridge 101 lesson, or doing an online test, or somesuch? Part of the briefing would be making clear that you're responsible for the people you let in, which is something we've always tried to convey to people but never very successfully. Other stuff would be where you find the answer to certain problems, what to do in certain emergencies, how to escort someone out, who likes backrubs and whether mike is an ombudsmen or a quartermaster.<br>


<br>This would mean that we'd have a wider circle of just members who are seen as responsible people in the space, but we'd still have *someone*<span><font color="#888888"><br><br>d.<br><br><br><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Snail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:snailtsunami@gmail.com" target="_blank">snailtsunami@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>




</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>




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<div>Some anti-camera people said that they would be okay with a camera at the<br>
door if there were a physical curtain hanging in front of it unless a rope<br>
were pulled by the person waiting outside the door, so that they could<br>
make themselves visible to the person inside at the door-open button.</div></blockquote></div><br></div>I love this idea!<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails<br>




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