<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>You already have what you wish for: a society of short term thinking and stop gap measures. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 21, 2013, at 14:13, Garrett Mace <<a href="mailto:garrettmace@gmail.com">garrettmace@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><br><div><div>On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Chris Murphy <<a href="mailto:chrisnoisebridge@gmail.com">chrisnoisebridge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font class="Apple-style-span">"Fixing society" sounds like a good fifty-year project.</font></blockquote></blockquote><br><div>Change is constant so I don't think there is a point to putting a time frame on it. But when I said long-term I really mean LONG. I think about Liebniz working on the binary number system in the late 1600s. There's some long term thinking for you. </div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Fixing society of a large geographic area is certainly a laudable ideal, but the existence of a long-term goal of fixing society does little to help those who have to deal with the current society. Both long-term and short-term solutions are needed, and perhaps the short-term measures can be phased out when the fabled millennium of peace allows the lion to lie down with the lamb (or the sketchy kleptomaniac to lie down with the web developer).</div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></span><br><span><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>