<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">>Civilians cannot initiate criminal prosecutions in the US.</span><div><br></div><div># correct. i should have included THAT should folks>> </div>
<div># want to pursue a case and it says it in the book i re:'d.</div><div><br></div><div># you can as a citizen go to the d.a. 1st with your evidence>></div><div># and they will make the decision to press criminal charges.</div>
<div># fucked up in S.F. d.a. is former police chief (very lame).</div><div># best to have an attorney do it, but you can do it on your own.</div><div><br></div><div># if citizen and/or their attorneys don't get the result they want>></div>
<div># from d.a. they can take it higher and, to bring in your prior info,>></div><div># go to the d.o.j. with their evidence.</div><div><br></div><div># sucks to have to do but, it's the d.o.j. and fbi that are busting sfpd>></div>
<div># for A LOT of shit right now as much as we can't stand feds.</div><div><br></div><div># using them for this purpose leaves no bad taste.</div><div><br></div><div># important for folks to know that you can also sue the cop(s) in small claims>></div>
<div># for up to $7500, but it must be other charges than used in a civil settlement.</div><div><br></div><div># example: use U.S.C. 1983 in federal court and assault/battery/others in>></div><div># small claims (whatever they may be you can prove)</div>
<div># this makes it possible to sue them twice where you cannot in federal.</div><div># and you sue them under their name NOT city of S.F./sfpd/name(s).</div><div><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">>§1983/Bivens actions can get damages and declaratory or injunctive</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">>relief. They can do enough damage that someone gets fired. But they</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">>can't make the government convict someone of a crime per se.</span></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># yes. and contrary to what 'they' will try to do, you get FULL access to>></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># any cop's personnel file and disciplinary record(s) as soon as your complaint>></font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># is set for trial.</font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># 'they' will usually push it to the max. 2 year time frame trying to get you to lose>></font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># patience and faith and drop it. DON'T. use a contingency agreement with your>></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># lawyer(s). this way time is irrelevant and you just sit back and have patience.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># we have successfully sued sfpd and are open-source with how to do it for beings>></font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># that are serious and have solid cases.</font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"># there will be many that try to tell you it can't be done, too well protected.</font></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"># bullshit. and video/audio is GOLD.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"># and it takes patience...</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"># also see [filming cops], [copblock] (many across nation), [exposing police abuses]>></span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"># [copwatch] and those link off to other resources </span></div><div><br></div><div>end comments</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>message ends</div>
<div>_____________________________________________________________________________</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Sai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sai@saizai.com" target="_blank">sai@saizai.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:05 PM, maestro <<a href="mailto:maestro415@gmail.com" target="_blank">maestro415@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> # depending on what they are found guilty of>><br>
> # under color of law, if they are found criminally>><br>
> # guilty, they LOSE their badge FOR LIFE and cannot>><br>
> # work as cops of any type in the U.S. again and best part>><br>
> # is there is NO APPEAL allowed.<br>
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</div>Civilians cannot initiate criminal prosecutions in the US.<br>
<br>
§1983/Bivens actions can get damages and declaratory or injunctive<br>
relief. They can do enough damage that someone gets fired. But they<br>
can't make the government convict someone of a crime per se.<br>
<br>
I think you have your laws confused.<br>
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- Sai<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">~the quieter you become,
the more you are able to hear...</span></b></p>
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