<div dir="ltr">can we please keep roomate drama off this list?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthonyletigre@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthonyletigre@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I realize this may matter little in the, uh, wider context of things going on right now�or actually, it probably fits right in!�but last night some stuff happened that I think was most Unexcellent & made me regret belittling the concerns voiced by others in previous threads I can't think of the names of right now.<div>
<br></div><div>Dan & Mik got in a fight & took it outside. According to Dan, Mik pulled a knife (or box cutter) & made a comment along the lines of "you seem like the kinda guy who'd bring a gun to a knife fight." This is Dan Freeman, whom I've nicknamed�<a href="http://www.thebuk.com/buk_novels.html" target="_blank">Dan Chinaski</a>, and Mik/Mitchell McAllister, who calls himself the Reverend Mik. These two cats have been spending an awful lot of time in the space for quite a while now, & both have a strong influence on the space, Mik through being a constant watching hostile presence who brings scuzzy, aggro characters into the space & Dan through a sort of quirky charisma & sheer volume: he talks, or rather shouts, continuously all day & all night, occasionally lapsing into a napping state for an hour or so on one of the chairs in the Church; his talk being a garbled blend of shit talk, warnings to others not to talk shit, glimmering fragments of humor, advice he would do well to take himself, occasional sudden flashes of quasi-profound insight, & other assorted psychobabble�though he is notably able to contain himself when necessary, for instance at the meeting last night (indicating he's clearly not as "insane" as he pretends to be). Prior to this blowup, I'd noticed both of these two careening out of control. The night before (Monday) Mik bitched at me for taking out the bins early & replacing them with temp compost & recycling bins to hold their place while the regular bins were downstairs which I'd labeled as such (10 mins before another person had thanked me for doing the same thing), then proceeded to angrily wash all the dishes in the kitchen with such an aura of hostility radiating from him that no one else wanted to go in the kitchen while he was there�I actually watched several people approach to wash a dish & back away, such was the violent attitude emanating from this character.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mik....you weren't there this morning when I told Dan what I was going to tell both of you to your face before I posted about it, which was a repeat of what I said last night while all this was happening ("I think everyone who is violent should leave & come back next Tuesday")*, so you'll have to take it in writing: first of all, I'm not afraid of you. I post to NB Discuss b/c you post to NB Discuss, & in the spirit of free & open interactions I don't see why not invite everyone to witness & participate in the debate. Even if you have a hunting knife, a gun, a taser & a vat of scalding acid, I'm still not afraid of you, I just sort of loathe you, I think you're just a nasty little troll of a man who has commandeered the space while contributing nothing to it other than a lot of semi-humorous NB-Discuss posts for a long time now, you rejected my attempt to patch things up from a long time ago when you stayed in one of my squats & then wanted to blame me for the consequences of it, so FUCK YOU, and btw honorific titles? OMG. "Reverend" is a name I'll spare for people I actually revere. You're always at Noisebridge. As far as I can tell you go crawl in a hole somewhere to sleep & all your remaining time is spent @ NB. You moved from your favorite spot to another spot in the Turing where you can sit & passive aggressively monitor everything that goes on & bitch about it to Discuss or whatever else you do all day every day while you sit on your ass in front of yer computer. NB exerts a pull, don't I know it�as I told Dan this morning, I've been spending too much time there lately myself, I needed a break from the stress of squatting for a bit & need to try not to get in any more trouble before my next & hopefully last court date for trespassing/illegal lodging on the 26th; I didn't get the break I wanted, but it was enough�& it's definitely got ahold of you; take a fucking break! How much less subtle does it have to get?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Dan, I'm inclined to say, contributes more to the space than Mitch; aside from entertaining a lot of the newbies who are taken in by his semi-amusing bluster, he contributes food & cooks well, participates in classes, teaches & collaborates (however ineffectively at times), & has even assisted me in expelling other unsavory & threatening characters from the space�but Dan, you need a break too, man. Take the high road, for the sake of all the latest batch of bright young enthusiasts in the space who look up to you (at Noisebridge where the only person who gets listened to is the one who shouts the loudest), & get some sleep, chill out a bit, shut the fuck up & hack. You've got a place to go, for Christ's sake, unlike a lot of us. Unless that's a lie.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Someone pointed out the knife-pulling could've been part of Dan's rigmarole as well: made-up. I don't see that it matters. I think making up shit like that is nearly as ill as the reality of it. I could not work last night. Twice (last night, & again this morning) I asked the people involved in last night's incident to leave the space & come back Tuesday, something both individuals have done to others in the past. Neither individual acknowledged my request, let alone took it seriously, & the few other people in the space acted like something was wrong with <i>me</i> for thinking knife-fights at Noisebridge (& the hostility leading up to them) are not an Excellent thing. I attended (part of) the meeting, which I rarely do, anticipating some of this interpersonal crap would be discussed, but it wasn't, & afterwards things just escalated to the point I stopped trying. I've been dealing with conflict & trying to positively influence new users for awhile now, & I'm not storming off & LEAVING NOISEBRIDGE�I'll be in & out in the coming days before I go North for my cleanse at the end of the month, working on my map of the City, finishing up some paintings & hopefully doing some laser- & vinyl-cutting�but I'm gonna be out exploring the City, too, not just drawing a map of it. The weather has turned perfect for camping, & I've got a tent. I'm also gonna take advantage of this opportunity to check out a couple other places I've been invited to, & have meant to visit for awhile. I have left the space for the day. The City is beautiful. Even the larger context of the BS happening right now can't take away the serenity I feel ATM.**</div>
<div><br></div><div>Some will no doubt be relieved to hear that I will be less often in the space, & also less of a presence on NB-Discuss in the coming days. I know I'm a bit verbose, awfully contentious, prone to drama; hopefully not hypocritical so much as open-minded enough to constantly revise & re-evaluate my views on things as I receive new data. Cheers! I'm relieved too, actually. It's a lot of responsibility being a steward, now I can fuck off & get back to tramping around independently, answering to no one.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Noisebridge Malcontents: count me in. Sorry for scorning your concerns in the past. A lot of the time I have to experience something myself before I really believe it.</div><div><br></div><div><<<END OF RANT>>></div>
<div><br></div><div><b>+11+</b></div><div><b>Tony Longshanks LeTigre</b></div><div>living & learning since 1976</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="1">*I'm not a member of Noisebridge, but my understanding is you don't have to be in order to voice a concern like this</font></div>
<div><font size="1"><br></font></div><div><font size="1">**I don't know exactly WTF is going on, but one morsel of advice if I may: whoever is behind it all, they want you to PANIC, because people who panic are easy to control & contain, so if you panic you're playing right into their hands.</font></div>
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