<div>Awesome, because this time I know I can catch you in a lie. Two other individuals were sitting in the laser cutter space the other night when Dan came back in from his confrontation with you & told us about the whole incident. A third person also heard Dan tell the story. Two of these individuals are named Chris & are new to Noisebridge, the third was also new to the space & I can't recall his name. They may have thought Dan was kidding about it all---that's not the impression I got---but they heard him say it. Let's see if they'll own up to what they heard. I'm BCCing this to both of them.</div>
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<div>BTW, Dan, b/c I know you read Disgust, too...whether you reply or not....after telling us the whole spiel the other night ("he had a box cutter in his hand, trying to act like he's all street or somethin', I didn't see what he had in his other hand...") you asked ME to apologize to Mik on your behalf ("tell him I was just playin', I thought we were just jokin' around"), further trying to drag me into your conflict (which I was making every attempt to ignore, as I was working on laser cuts & the SF projector map).</div>
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<div>I would have put up with shrugging the incident off, but I won't put up with being called a liar for reporting the words & deeds of others. No fucking way.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Mitchel McAllister <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">I agree. The guy with the knife should stay away. Whoever that might be, because it wasn't me. But thanks to everybody for taking the word of Tony on this - by the way, Dan never said anything about me having a knife. But hey, Tony can say whatever he likes, without consequence,as he has been doing constantly since September.<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb">-----Original Message-----<br>Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:31:41 pm<br>To: <a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>From: "Drew McDermott" <<a href="mailto:drewmcdermott2002@gmail.com">drewmcdermott2002@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Addressing individuals<br><br></div>
<div class="im HOEnZb">> In the case of Daravinne, I intentionally broadcast personal info about<br>her<br>> as an attack because I know she's a very private person & would hate that.<br><br></div>
<div class="im HOEnZb">Can you and the guy with the knife and whoever he was trying to knife stay<br>away from the space for a while?<br>You are screwing up Noisebridge for everyone.<br><br>thanks.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
<br>On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <<br><a href="mailto:anthonyletigre@gmail.com">anthonyletigre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<div class="im HOEnZb">> I understand your suggestion. In the case of "The Reverend Mik" and Dan<br>> Chinaski, I intended to tell them both in person this morning that I<br>> thought their violent behavior last night inhibited the workspace & made me<br>
> uncomfortable in the space, & that since I said that last night & they<br>> disregarded or pretended not to hear it, I was going to take the next step<br>> & post it to the Disgust list. This is the same thing that happened with<br>
> another individual (it's not a secret, but I'll refrain) a year or so ago<br>> after I confronted him about some mega shitty behavior on his part in the<br>> NB kitchen: not only did he not take responsibility or show any contrition,<br>
> he escalated things further, at which point my options were to engage in a<br>> physical confrontation with him in the middle of the space, or bring it to<br>> the community's attention. I chose the latter.<br>
><br>> In the case of Daravinne, I intentionally broadcast personal info about<br>> her as an attack because I know she's a very private person & would hate<br>> that. I, on the other hand, hate having 3 years of work stolen from me,<br>
> first by police, then by her. We're talking about things I've worked on on<br>> a DAILY basis for the last 3 years, which I have been unable to touch for<br>> the last 2 months. I knew I ran the risk of arrest, jail &c when I holed up<br>
> in the darkroom in the unused lab at UCSF Parnassus, but I didn't expect it<br>> from a "friend," even one who had shown previous hints of her "true colors"<br>> in the past. In other words, airing that sort of personal attack is not<br>
> something I would nor<br><br></div>
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