Drew,<br><br>Dan tells different things to different people. I have witnesses. Dan doesn't want to be involved in this issue any more for reasons of his own. I also don't want to be involved in the issue any more for other reasons: mainly, I'm working. I didn't want to be involved in the issue in the first place. I spent that entire night trying to work in the space, moving from one end to the other & unable to do so no matter where I worked because belligerent individuals were fighting around me & trying to rope me into their conflict or disturbing the atmosphere to the point that work was impossible. I have unsubscribed from the DIsgust list forever & am only responding to this b/c it was mailed to me. I would prefer to have no matter part in this discussion. Please don't insinuate that I'm a liar, though, that's weak. It's also another betrayal from a former friend. (I will handle the remainder of this discussion off-list.)<br>
<br><br>+11+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Can we take the drama to the meeting? I think both of them should be banned for unexcellent behavior. I frankly don't care if a knife was or was not pulled at this point. It is stupid drama that has nothing to do with hacking. Let us all shut up and hack. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I'd like to point out that Dan doesn't recall a knife and he's sorry about falling down the stairs. -dru</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 18, 2013 8:00 PM, "Mitchel McAllister" <<a href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I have not brought any scuzzy people into the space. I haven't brought *any* people into the space.<br>
<br>
Once again Tony proves that he and reality have ireeconcilable differences.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
Date: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:35:09 pm<br>
To: "Andrew Byrne" <<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>><br>
Cc: Mitchel McAllister <<a href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>>, NoiseBridge Discuss <<a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" target="_blank">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>><br>
From: "Tony Longshanks LeTigre" <<a href="mailto:anthonyletigre@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthonyletigre@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] leave (and associated belligerence)<br>
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"Tony knows I didn't have a knife."<br>
<br>
Bullshit. How would I know you didn't have a knife? Your attitude in the<br>
space has continuously been extremely hostile. You bring scuzzy disruptive<br>
people into the space. I told two people last night about the incident &<br>
they both replied, "I'm not surprised [that you pulled a knife], he's<br>
brutal." That's just about verbatim.<br>
<br>
I'm not trying to make myself the center of attention, I'm trying to make<br>
shitty behavior on the part of yourself & others the center of attention,<br>
so it will hopefully be dealt with, since I alone obviously lack the power<br>
to resolve it.<br>
<br>
As of today, I officially don't care. I've reconnected with the big<br>
beautiful world outside Noisebridge. I will be in the space sporadically<br>
for the next week or so, then going North for a break. From that point on<br>
my relationship to Noisebridge is going to change, from a drug addiction to<br>
a healthier, less intimate, more sustainable relationship.<br>
<br>
So, since no one else seems to care about this issue, I don't either. Maybe<br>
knife fights are just the thing we need to mix it up a bit. I've got<br>
several knives myself for prepping food in the wilderness & self-defense<br>
(if need be). Have fun, everyone. I still think NB is a great place. I'm<br>
coming in later today to see if I can laser cut a couple things in time for<br>
a meeting I have tonight.<br>
<br>
+11+<br>
<br>
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Byrne <<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> A third party asking witnesses other than our friend Tony if they saw<br>
> anything, maybe. An impasse would be unpleasant.<br>
> On Apr 17, 2013 11:35 PM, "Mitchel McAllister" <<a href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I really wish you people would learn what "mediate" means. mediation<br>
>> implies a middle ground. Exactly what middle ground exists between a false<br>
>> accusation and anassertion that the accusation is false?<br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:14:46 pm<br>
>> To: "Mitchel McAllister" <<a href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Tony Longshanks<br>
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