<div dir="ltr">Honestly, this matter is best dealt with with Law Enforcement. I do not think noisebridge is adequately equipped to deal with sexual assault. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Gavin Knight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gnnrok@gmail.com" target="_blank">gnnrok@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This is a tough situation. Just a reminder the list is public and<br>
accessible via google, so probably a meeting is a good place for this.<br>
<br>
I'm sure someone could arrange a video chat or something for anyone<br>
who is not near Noisebridge.<br>
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Liz Henry <<a href="mailto:lizhenry@gmail.com">lizhenry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> A quick note, I need to go get on a plane. The Dante who was at the meeting<br>
> the other night and who was asked to leave (the tweaker dude) was a<br>
> different person named Dante.<br>
><br>
> - liz<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Andrew Byrne <<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Since this is all out on the list, I feel the need to present my side; it<br>
>> is clear to me now what this is.<br>
>><br>
>> For a few weeks, Lillian had asked of I could give her one of her<br>
>> supplemental estrogen shots, and one night I was at NoiseBridge when Lillian<br>
>> asked me to give her her shot. I said sure, she climbed up, laid down on the<br>
>> table, and pulled down her jeans enough to expose her buttocks, I readied<br>
>> the injection and placed my left hand on the back of her upper thigh. She<br>
>> stiffened, and told me that she felt uncomfortable, so I stopped, moved<br>
>> away, apologized for the discomfort and then left the room. There was never<br>
>> a "what the fuck are you doing?".<br>
>><br>
>> It's pretty rich that /she/ is accusing me of cocaine use. It's not out of<br>
>> my experience, but as I have dopamine insensitivity--ADD--the stuff doesn't<br>
>> have the pleasure response for me that justifies the absurd prices; that and<br>
>> the killing South Americans bit.<br>
>><br>
>> Unfortunately, the only other witness in the room was Dante I think Dante<br>
>> was expelled from the Tuesday meeting two weeks ago and is unquestionably<br>
>> her "other people"--Dante got angry when I sent him an email invitation to a<br>
>> 'digital feminine' salon b/c he doesn't see himself as feminine and started<br>
>> this whole process about three weeks after Lillian left; it was then that<br>
>> Lillian "unfriended" me on Fb. That only sounds trite until I add that she<br>
>> accepted my friend request after leaving SF for wherever she is now.<br>
>><br>
>> I'd still like to drag up the Dante incident, as there were several<br>
>> witnesses on my side and a documented willful misrepresentation to Liz on<br>
>> Dante's. I would like to ask Liz now to retain copies of her emails<br>
>> regarding this for possible subpoena.<br>
>><br>
>> A friend? No you saw me as a rube.<br>
>> -dru<br>
>><br>
>> On Jun 17, 2013 11:06 AM, "Lillian Fleurs" <<a href="mailto:lillian.fleurs@gmail.com">lillian.fleurs@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Well maybe you should have thought about these things before you pinned<br>
>>> me down on a table and began unzipping my pants without any permission at<br>
>>> all, refusing to stop even after I froze in fear asking what the fuck you<br>
>>> were doing. I was shaken after that. I used to like you Drew, and it took me<br>
>>> so long to report anything because I was worried about hurting someone I<br>
>>> thought was a good person. You seemed to be high on cocaine or something,<br>
>>> which initially allowed me to excuse the behavior. It wasn't until other<br>
>>> people made me realize this wasn't just a one off incident that I decided to<br>
>>> report what had happened. I recall you making creepy sexual comments about<br>
>>> others way before this incident too, so looking back now I don't find what<br>
>>> happened surprising and I probably could have prevented being violated.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Andrew Byrne <<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I would also like to point out the assumption of my guilt throughout<br>
>>>> this discourse; I was told I was considered a sexual predator by the<br>
>>>> anarcho-fem community a week before being contacted officially, and this<br>
>>>> hateful trope has been driving me away from the space since. It will<br>
>>>> doubtless screw with my social life for another few months and affects me<br>
>>>> professionally; I can't even get a response from Mozilla's bug network now,<br>
>>>> thanks to this. I know, hard to empathize with someone the mediator is<br>
>>>> calling out, but once this is cleared up, I'd like this experience well<br>
>>>> documented -dru<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2013 9:29 PM, "Liz Henry" <<a href="mailto:lizhenry@gmail.com">lizhenry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I would also like for this to be discussed again in a meeting. I<br>
>>>>> brought this up at the meeting not last week but the week before. But, I<br>
>>>>> have not been in the greatest of health and have missed a lot of meetings.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> It was also brought to my attention that Jesse Z. wants to come back to<br>
>>>>> Noisebridge. I do not think this is a good idea. Basically, I don't want<br>
>>>>> to be around people who have behaved in the ways that either Jesse and Dru<br>
>>>>> have behaved.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> There are so many good things about Noisebridge, and about its<br>
>>>>> openness. To keep that good for as many people as possible we do need to<br>
>>>>> have good boundaries. And ask people who have shown great disrespect for<br>
>>>>> others by non consensual behavior to stay away and work out their issues to<br>
>>>>> learn better behavior in some other context, rather than being in the middle<br>
>>>>> of an space without much in the way of rules or safety. Sexual assault and<br>
>>>>> other violent behavior destroys our ability to trust each other. I want to<br>
>>>>> be able to trust people at NB, and to be able to tell others they are likely<br>
>>>>> relatively safe there.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Best,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Liz<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Lillian Fleurs<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:lillian.fleurs@gmail.com">lillian.fleurs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> A member of the community known as Andrew "Dru" Byrne has yet to be<br>
>>>>>> kicked out of the community. Right before I moved he did some EXTREMELY<br>
>>>>>> inappropriate and non consensual things to me that extend far beyond creepy.<br>
>>>>>> I sent some emails to Tony "LeTigre", who then forwarded them to Liz. I had<br>
>>>>>> asked both of them to keep what had happened to me anonymous. I'm coming out<br>
>>>>>> of anonymity because it appears nothing has been done to get rid of someone<br>
>>>>>> who poses a high threat to other members of the community (both male and<br>
>>>>>> female, trans and cis).<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Unfortunately since I no longer live in San Francisco, I can not show<br>
>>>>>> up to a Noisebridge meeting but I would like this issue brought up, because<br>
>>>>>> others who still use the space have expressed to me that they don't feel<br>
>>>>>> safe around Andrew either.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I'm sorry for the drama, but I'm not the one who started it.<br>
>>>>>><br>
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>>>>> --<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>
>>>>> Liz Henry<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:lhenry@mozilla.com">lhenry@mozilla.com</a><br>
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