<div dir="ltr">i am also so not ok with this it isn't even funny. are people in the community honestly trying to say that people with racist views are 100% ok in this community? i am not even going to get into how offensive and ridiculous it is to either speculate that this is some "infiltration ink", that it is somehow benign ink, that there is some "legit ok" use of white power or nationalist beliefs around "the white race" or how incredibly offensive it is to even bring UP in the context of black power, brown power (both movements about *reclaiming* power for minorities which was lost or denied under racist society practices), or any kind of actual ethnic pride. <br>
<br>THERE IS NO WHITE RACE. RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. PEOPLE BELIEVING IN SOME SORT OF ELEVATED WHITE RACE WHICH THEY NEED TO HAVE POWER FOR OR PRIDE IN ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEING RACIST END OF STORY. <div><br></div><div style>
There is a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE between being proud of one's ethnic heritage (irish pride, russian pride, german pride, etc etc) and sporting ANY kind of white power attitudes. Anyone defending this is defending racism, plain and simple. </div>
<div style><br></div><div style>note: i am not talking to liz or snail here fyi, i am just including this whole thread so we can once again marvel at how fucked up it is. </div><div style><br></div><div style>-hep</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Liz Henry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lizhenry@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=lizhenry@gmail.com&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">lizhenry@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Snail you are not the only one, this is ridiculous and embarrassing. If someone has a white power tattoo that they hypothetically regret, they can cover it up out of shame and regret, and so as not to piss off, insult, and alarm everyone not racist in their vicinity. So, fuck that guy. <br>
<br>I am glad someone had the sense, twice, to kick him out. That speaks well for noisebridge's culture, even if some people on the list are like Oh No What About Mr Nazi's Feelings. <br><br>Anyone else who wants to reveal their overtly racist body modifications feel free to show them off so that we know to kick you the hell out of the space. <br>
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Cheerfully,<br><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
- Liz<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Snail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:snailtsunami@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=snailtsunami@gmail.com&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">snailtsunami@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>....<br><br>Am I the only one here reading these two comments and saying "WHAT THE EVERLASTING FUCK?? HOW ARE YOU SO OK WITH THIS. I AM NOT OK WITH THIS. THIS IS NOT OK."<br>
<br></div><div>I don't feel very casual or comfortable at all about someone waltzing around with a white power slogan, whether they "mean it" or not. If they didn't "mean it" they would know better, they would know to cover it up, because this shit is scary.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=andrew@pachakutech.com&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I've known people--skinheads--who've infiltrated violent racist skinhead groups with great success; I realize people have a lot of reasons to get inked and he may enjoy being approached about it in a friendly, initially non-judgmental manner. If he's going to be a regular, I'd like to be able to explain to others why I'm OK with him being here. <br>
-dru</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 17, 2013 4:35 PM, "maestro" <<a href="mailto:maestro415@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=maestro415@gmail.com&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">maestro415@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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# some beings want you to walk on eggshells even @ NB.<div># bet you 73 bitcoins if it was a black chick with ink that said>></div><div># black pride or black power or another culture doing the same>></div><div>
# NO ONE would say a word about it, especially to them.</div><div># do they actually know what the asian ink SAYS and MEANS>></div><div># that comes through the house?</div><div># the latino ink?</div><div># the russian ink?</div>
<div># the invisible ink?</div><div># nope.</div><div><br></div><div># +1 jim</div><div># and white power isn't always a racial slogan it's the rascist minds>></div><div># and race baiters that interpret it that way and want others to.</div>
<div># though of course it *is* used by beings with negative intonation.</div><div># how does anyone know he didn't do it in the pen to get affiliated and>><br># survive.</div><div><br></div><div>end comments<br>
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