<p dir="ltr">You know, if I was trying to build a case in my own self-interest here, I'd just let this stand, but I have never administered any medication to you, ever. -dru</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 17, 2013 6:31 PM, "Lillian Fleurs" <<a href="mailto:lillian.fleurs@gmail.com">lillian.fleurs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">@Gavin: It's possible that I can do a video chat for the meeting. If anyone wants to help set that up, feel free to send me a private email.<br><br>@Ron: I'd honestly rather not get the law enforcement involved. Having to deal with court cases in an entirely different city is not something I want to even bother spending my time doing, not to mention the fact that I don't believe any crime is worth locking a human being up. I just want this brought up at a meeting so the people who have been feeling far too uncomfortable to show up at Noisebridge can once again feel safe.<br>
<br>@Andrew: I don't recall exposing myself after you reached around my body, all I remember is not being able to look at you and feeling heavily violated by your inappropriate touch. You had administered my shot before without violating my personal space, so perhaps you're mixing it up with one of those times.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Ah yes, this I remember. You laid down on the table, I moved to unzip your pants, you deferred, unzipped them with your hand, then exposed yourself for the medical administration you had asked for.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Humbly submitted to the daylight of public opinion; I've got nothing to hide and I'm glad this is being recorded by the publicly searchable Google alongside the NSA.</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 17, 2013 12:46 PM, "Lillian Fleurs" <<a href="mailto:lillian.fleurs@gmail.com" target="_blank">lillian.fleurs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">You tried to unzip my pants for me, that's what initially made me uncomfortable. You reached around my body, putting your hands very near my genitals and began to unzip my pants for me. That's when I tensed up and asked you what the fuck you were doing. You made me far too tense and uncomfortable to receive a shot from you. It also wasn't until Kim came into the room offering you weed that you actually left. Dante was not in the room when it happened, it was only you and I. However Dante did see my fear, shock and discomfort after the incident. And it was Dante who helped calm me down enough to be able to receive my estrogen injection. <br>
<br>The email I sent to Tony, which was later sent to Liz is word for word what happened. Below is a screenshot.<br><br><img src="cid:ii_13f53a92ac58de7c" alt="Inline image 1" width="1012" height="519"><br><br><br></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Since this is all out on the list, I feel the need to present my side; it is clear to me now what this is.</p>
<p dir="ltr">For a few weeks, Lillian had asked of I could give her one of her supplemental estrogen shots, and one night I was at NoiseBridge when Lillian asked me to give her her shot. I said sure, she climbed up, laid down on the table, and pulled down her jeans enough to expose her buttocks, I readied the injection and placed my left hand on the back of her upper thigh. She stiffened, and told me that she felt uncomfortable, so I stopped, moved away, apologized for the discomfort and then left the room. There was never a "what the fuck are you doing?".</p>
<p dir="ltr">It's pretty rich that /she/ is accusing me of cocaine use. It's not out of my experience, but as I have dopamine insensitivity--ADD--the stuff doesn't have the pleasure response for me that justifies the absurd prices; that and the killing South Americans bit.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Unfortunately, the only other witness in the room was Dante I think Dante was expelled from the Tuesday meeting two weeks ago and is unquestionably her "other people"--Dante got angry when I sent him an email invitation to a 'digital feminine' salon b/c he doesn't see himself as feminine and started this whole process about three weeks after Lillian left; it was then that Lillian "unfriended" me on Fb. That only sounds trite until I add that she accepted my friend request after leaving SF for wherever she is now.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'd still like to drag up the Dante incident, as there were several witnesses on my side and a documented willful misrepresentation to Liz on Dante's. I would like to ask Liz now to retain copies of her emails regarding this for possible subpoena.</p>
<p dir="ltr">A friend? No you saw me as a rube.<br>
-dru</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Jun 17, 2013 11:06 AM, "Lillian Fleurs" <<a href="mailto:lillian.fleurs@gmail.com" target="_blank">lillian.fleurs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Well maybe you should have thought about these things before you pinned me down on a table and began unzipping my pants without any permission at all, refusing to stop even after I froze in fear asking what the fuck you were doing. I was shaken after that. I used to like you Drew, and it took me so long to report anything because I was worried about hurting someone I thought was a good person. You seemed to be high on cocaine or something, which initially allowed me to excuse the behavior. It wasn't until other people made me realize this wasn't just a one off incident that I decided to report what had happened. I recall you making creepy sexual comments about others way before this incident too, so looking back now I don't find what happened surprising and I probably could have prevented being violated.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I would also like to point out the assumption of my guilt throughout this discourse; I was told I was considered a sexual predator by the anarcho-fem community a week before being contacted officially, and this hateful trope has been driving me away from the space since. It will doubtless screw with my social life for another few months and affects me professionally; I can't even get a response from Mozilla's bug network now, thanks to this. I know, hard to empathize with someone the mediator is calling out, but once this is cleared up, I'd like this experience well documented -dru</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 16, 2013 9:29 PM, "Liz Henry" <<a href="mailto:lizhenry@gmail.com" target="_blank">lizhenry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I would also like for this to be discussed again in a meeting. I brought this up at the meeting not last week but the week before. But, I have not been in the greatest of health and have missed a lot of meetings. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It was also brought to my attention that Jesse Z. wants to come back to Noisebridge. I do not think this is a good idea. Basically, I don't want to be around people who have behaved in the ways that either Jesse and Dru have behaved. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">There are so many good things about Noisebridge, and about its openness. To keep that good for as many people as possible we do need to have good boundaries. And ask people who have shown great disrespect for others by non consensual behavior to stay away and work out their issues to learn better behavior in some other context, rather than being in the middle of an space without much in the way of rules or safety. Sexual assault and other violent behavior destroys our ability to trust each other. I want to be able to trust people at NB, and to be able to tell others they are likely relatively safe there. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Liz<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><br><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Lillian Fleurs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lillian.fleurs@gmail.com" target="_blank">lillian.fleurs@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">A member of the community known as Andrew "Dru" Byrne has yet to be kicked out of the community. Right before I moved he did some EXTREMELY inappropriate and non consensual things to me that extend far beyond creepy. I sent some emails to Tony "LeTigre", who then forwarded them to Liz. I had asked both of them to keep what had happened to me anonymous. I'm coming out of anonymity because it appears nothing has been done to get rid of someone who poses a high threat to other members of the community (both male and female, trans and cis).<br>
<br>Unfortunately since I no longer live in San Francisco, I can not show up to a Noisebridge meeting but I would like this issue brought up, because others who still use the space have expressed to me that they don't feel safe around Andrew either. <br>
<br>I'm sorry for the drama, but I'm not the one who started it.</div>
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