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Weev was allowed to preach his racism as much as he wanted. So yes,
it is condoned.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2013 07:03 PM, hep wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">i am also so not ok with this it isn't even funny.
are people in the community honestly trying to say that people
with racist views are 100% ok in this community? i am not even
going to get into how offensive and ridiculous it is to either
speculate that this is some "infiltration ink", that it is
somehow benign ink, that there is some "legit ok" use of white
power or nationalist beliefs around "the white race" or how
incredibly offensive it is to even bring UP in the context of
black power, brown power (both movements about *reclaiming*
power for minorities which was lost or denied under racist
society practices), or any kind of actual ethnic pride. <br>
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THERE IS NO WHITE RACE. RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. PEOPLE
BELIEVING IN SOME SORT OF ELEVATED WHITE RACE WHICH THEY NEED TO
HAVE POWER FOR OR PRIDE IN ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEING RACIST END
OF STORY.
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There is a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE between being proud of
one's ethnic heritage (irish pride, russian pride, german
pride, etc etc) and sporting ANY kind of white power
attitudes. Anyone defending this is defending racism, plain
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<div style="">note: i am not talking to liz or snail here fyi, i
am just including this whole thread so we can once again
marvel at how fucked up it is. </div>
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<div style="">-hep</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Liz
Henry <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Snail
you are not the only one, this is ridiculous and
embarrassing. If someone has a white power tattoo
that they hypothetically regret, they can cover it up
out of shame and regret, and so as not to piss off,
insult, and alarm everyone not racist in their
vicinity. So, fuck that guy. <br>
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I am glad someone had the sense, twice, to kick him
out. That speaks well for noisebridge's culture,
even if some people on the list are like Oh No What
About Mr Nazi's Feelings. <br>
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Anyone else who wants to reveal their overtly racist
body modifications feel free to show them off so that
we know to kick you the hell out of the space. <br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Cheerfully,<br>
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- Liz<br>
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<div class="im">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Snail
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wrote:<br>
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<div>....<br>
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Am I the only one here reading these two
comments and saying "WHAT THE EVERLASTING
FUCK?? HOW ARE YOU SO OK WITH THIS. I AM NOT
OK WITH THIS. THIS IS NOT OK."<br>
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<div>I don't feel very casual or comfortable
at all about someone waltzing around with a
white power slogan, whether they "mean it"
or not. If they didn't "mean it" they would
know better, they would know to cover it up,
because this shit is scary.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17,
2013 at 5:08 PM, Andrew Byrne <span
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<p dir="ltr">I've known
people--skinheads--who've
infiltrated violent racist skinhead
groups with great success; I realize
people have a lot of reasons to get
inked and he may enjoy being
approached about it in a friendly,
initially non-judgmental manner. If
he's going to be a regular, I'd like
to be able to explain to others why
I'm OK with him being here. <br>
-dru</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun
17, 2013 4:35 PM, "maestro" <<a
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# some beings want you to walk
on eggshells even @ NB.
<div># bet you 73 bitcoins if
it was a black chick with
ink that said>></div>
<div># black pride or black
power or another culture
doing the same>></div>
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# NO ONE would say a word
about it, especially to
them.</div>
<div># do they actually know
what the asian ink SAYS and
MEANS>></div>
<div># that comes through the
house?</div>
<div># the latino ink?</div>
<div># the russian ink?</div>
<div># the invisible ink?</div>
<div># nope.</div>
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<div># +1 jim</div>
<div># and white power isn't
always a racial slogan it's
the rascist minds>></div>
<div># and race baiters that
interpret it that way and
want others to.</div>
<div># though of course it
*is* used by beings with
negative intonation.</div>
<div># how does anyone know he
didn't do it in the pen to
get affiliated and>><br>
# survive.</div>
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