<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Hate transcends race. Fighting hate is the true battle. Racism is a symptom not the root illness. But fighting hate is hard it takes place internally and asks everyone to examine their motivations behind their actions. Not just one group.</span><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:59 AM, hep <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dis@gruntle.org" target="_blank">dis@gruntle.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">also, for a take on why some people think SF is so racist, Tim Wise does a really good job of breaking down the minority experience in sf. <div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.timwise.org/2010/08/with-friends-like-these-who-needs-glenn-beck-racism-and-white-privilege-on-the-liberal-left/" target="_blank">http://www.timwise.org/2010/08/with-friends-like-these-who-needs-glenn-beck-racism-and-white-privilege-on-the-liberal-left/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>let's not forget that the numbers were just released showing the black population has once again shrunk down dramatically once again: </div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/breed-decries-shrinking-sf-black-population/Content?oid=2445469" target="_blank">http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/breed-decries-shrinking-sf-black-population/Content?oid=2445469</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>the bold italic just covered some of the problems with a less racially diverse city, and how behaviors become more unintentionally racist: </div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.thebolditalic.com/PeterLawrenceKane/stories/3001-is-san-francisco-as-not-racist-as-it-thinks-it-is" target="_blank">http://www.thebolditalic.com/PeterLawrenceKane/stories/3001-is-san-francisco-as-not-racist-as-it-thinks-it-is</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>and dregs one is currently doing an amazing series on the issues minorities face in SF:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJdcU-4cqQ8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJdcU-4cqQ8</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiV4mYvRtU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiV4mYvRtU</a></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wdmegvAnSw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wdmegvAnSw</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXii8OGcM7o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXii8OGcM7o</a></div><div><br></div><div> for anyone who wants to actually learn about this issue instead of just brushing off the opinions of what the people living through it feel about their own situations and experiences. </div>
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<div><br></div><div>-hep</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:43 AM, hep <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dis@gruntle.org" target="_blank">dis@gruntle.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">my point of comparison is growing up as someone of minority descent in the bay area. my family has repeatedly be told to go back to mexico here despite the fact that we have lived in sf since we called it yerba buena. i constantly have to deal with privileged white assholes being completely racist on a variety of microaggressions daily (this being one of them btw. the idea that a minority needs to be "told" what racism is, and informed that their experiences suffering racism aren't valid because they don't fit a bunch of white guys' perceptions of what racism is.) I am perfectly capable of deciding how racist my own experiences have been, and able to accurately compare them to the rest of the country I have lived in, including louisiana and georgia. Yes, the Bay Area is one of the most racist places in this country. Primarily because for some reason a bunch of white people who never experience racism (plz do not bring up "reverse racism" here because I really don't want you to embarrass yourself) believe that because they never see something or recognize when they do something it must not happen. FYI: were we not JUST discussing "south american caffeine" and a bunch of racist assumptions on another thread? <span><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>-hep</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Robert "Finny" Merrill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rfmerrill@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">rfmerrill@berkeley.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">No really like, what is your point of comparison here?<br>
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