<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi there Michael Clift aka the Occupirate,<br><br>
Sorry, I won't communicate off-list with you and don't really have interest in any further communication. Your email pretty much speaks itself. I don't think I need to answer it further.<br><br>Liz<br><br></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Michael Clift <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:occupirate@gmail.com" target="_blank">occupirate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Clarification: I said, in half jest: This is a hacker space, as occupiers, we hack space.</div>
<div>This is neither endorsement or condemnation of what people do here. Once again, quite simply, if it is not interfering with my work I do not have a problem with it. WHEN someone begins to affect me negatively I take DIRECT ACTION, without consent or support of whomever may happen to lie at hand. Much of this smacks of very unexcellent PC douchebaggery so in vogue. Essentially a gossip-circle and personality tribunal are not what I am here for. I CAN and WILL understand the concerns of the offended, but know that we all have very subjective viewpoints, and I personally have NOT witnessed anything but exemplary behavior from both James and Dru both inside and outside of NB.</div>
<div>NB is for the use of All, with "belonging" to ANY. It MUST remain flexible and adaptive. It must remain SAFE, people must feel SAFE...yes, I get this...but many people MUST own their own parts of what is happening....</div>
<div>perhaps I am just an old dinosaur from the Jimmy Cagney?Cary Grant/Bobby Mitchum days....but grow up and get back to work...IGNORE the fools...let THEM be asses...we should keep an eye out for the space, but please you guys, lets refrain from being ninnys.......there is some unholy "Stalinist shite floating aabout, completely unneccessarily....handle your shit, stop mobbing on people, and reflect on the fact that I AM OPPRESSED BY YOUR MANUFACTURED SENSITIVITY.</div>
<div>(and in the words of John Lennon, "I'm not the only one")</div>
<div>you are all playing into the divisive trap of Establishment mimicry.</div>
<div>PEACE LOVE and BRUSSELL SPROUTS<br><br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Liz Henry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lizhenry@gmail.com" target="_blank">lizhenry@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Thanks for asking him to leave, Leif, and also thanks for letting the list know about it!<br><br></div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">- liz<br></div></div>
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<div>On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Leif Ryge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leif@synthesize.us" target="_blank">leif@synthesize.us</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>This afternoon I asked an older man named James to leave Noisebridge.<br><br>This is loud obnoxious James who used to wear a cowboy hat and be around<br>frequently. Today was the first time I've seen him in several months; I<br>
heard he has been in southen california.<br><br>Based on conversations I've had with him and with people who know him<br>better than I do, I believe he harasses women on the street and responds<br>poorly to suggestions that he should stop doing that.<br>
<br>I told him that I would prefer that he *not* return to the weekly<br>meeting, but that if he wants to see if the rest of the community agrees<br>with my assessment that he should not be at Noisebridge he could attend.<br>
He said he will stay away until the meeting and will come to "stand<br>trial".<br><br></div>
<div>I think James epitomizes the truism that by including some people we are<br>actually exlcuding others. I hope we don't need to spend too much time<br>discussing him at the meeting.<br></div><span><font color="#888888"><br>
~leif<br></font></span>
<div><br>ps: Thank you to the 3 people who agreed to join me in having this<br>difficult conversation!<br><br></div>
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