<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span>Hi Daniel,</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent;"><span><font size="2">So if I have a key from the front Noisebridge door (if there is still key based lock on them), I can/I will be able to get in all the way to the Noisebridge without any assistance? Because if not than people who do not have the mobile will be done for if there is no one around, which was in the past the case of most of the mornings or even after the lunch. If someone comes to work and can not make it in, that is a bummer ... With one year exception I do not have mobile from 2007 and I'm really not missing it, doing whatever I need from my Linux run computer, so technology yes, mobile no.</font></span></div><div style="font-family:
'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Many thanks,</span></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>FAA</span></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;
font-size: 10pt;">Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><br><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br><br> <div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Daniel Kelly <arrays.tostring@gmail.com><br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:34 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] consensus item to change door-opening
policy<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv0201461201"><div dir="ltr">I believe Jake's proposal only affects the ability of someone standing inside of the space, on the third floor, to let someone<div>in the gate by pressing a button. </div><div><br></div><div style="">
Anyone with or without a cellphone is welcome to stand in front of noisebridge and pray for entrance, just like always.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div></div><div class="yiv0201461201gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="yiv0201461201gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv0201461201gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;">Hi Jake,<br>I just wonder as a member of the group of "mobile phone free people", is there a way how to enter Noisebridge at the moment on my own without the help of anyone, if you have the key from the doors downstairs? I'm not around at the moment but I just would like to know if there is some option for the ones who do not want to get mobile and they would like to come to Noisebridge when no one is in - and they are members or closely associated, however you define it. I ask because many times in past I would be coming around 7 am and if key is what you need to get in fine.<br>
<br>Sincerely,<div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><br><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org/">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a></div>
<div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way."
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br><br> <div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jake <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:15 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Noisebridge-discuss] consensus item to change door-opening policy<br> </font> </div>
<div><div class="yiv0201461201h5"> <div><br>Last week (June 19th) at the meeting i instantiated a consensus item to <br>require that opening the door from upstairs requires a code.<br><br>This would mean that to open the door from upstairs at
noisebridge, one <br>would need to either enter their code into the keypad above the intercom <br>(upstairs), or by using their android app or browser page to access the <br>API that way, which would still require a code.<br>
<br>Using the smartphone app or webpage thing would allow the user to enter <br>their code only once, since it would be cached in their phone or laptop. <br>So they wouldnt have to type their code all the time when letting people <br>
in.<br><br>We could still have defined periods of time when a group code or even <br>promiscuous mode (for 5mof for example) would get the door open, as long <br>as such changes were on a set timetable, automatically expiring. This <br>
stuff is not hard to do, cron has been around since 1979.<br><br>I am not suggesting that we turn off the doorbell (although people are <br>working on a "doorbell tamer" to make it less annoying) but rather that we <br>
restrict the ability of people to let other
people in, if they do not have <br>a code of their own.<br><br>People will point out that those without codes can still run down the <br>stairs and physically open the door, but this is a separate issue that can <br>be dealt with in more conventional ways. What I am hoping to address with <br>
this consensus item is to take one concrete step toward the people of <br>noisebridge having better control over who accesses noisebridge the space.<br><br>Noisebridge is a very open and welcoming place to newcomers and outsiders, <br>
and i don't think that's a problem. All I am saying is that those people <br>should not immediately have the power to open the door for everyone else.<br><br>I won't be at the meeting because i have a pre-existing condition, but I <br>
hope that all present will support this consensus item and pass it.<br><br>-jake<br>_______________________________________________<br>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
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