<div dir="ltr"><div>I am very supportive of reclaiming the word douche. <br><br></div>Douche is a very appropriate word to use in this context. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:56 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>For anyone who was duped by the 'i'm captain reasonable' tone in the wildly problematic email from Some Other Guy Named Tom.... I'll just leave this here:</p>
<p>From wikipedia on feminism:<br>
A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.</p>
<p>From wikipedia on patriarchy:<br>
Patriarchy (rule by fathers) is a social system in which the male is the primary authority figure central to social organization and the central roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property... It implies the institutions of male rule and privilege, and entails female subordination.</p>
<p>From me:<br>
It would appear that Mr. Tom has noticed the patriarchy, and is rudimentarily aware that it is bad for him too. For example, like many men-within-patriarchy, he is blind to the ways in which his focus on himself (within a conversation that was explicitly not about him) and his own beliefs (presented as fact) is making him come across as a total douchenozzle - kinda useless for healthy people, and actually promoting the growth of bacteria in the wrong places.</p>
<p>Yeah, I think as a feminist I have reclaimed the word douche.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>R.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 31, 2013 2:03 AM, "Alexandra Glowaski" <<a href="mailto:alex.glowaski@gmail.com" target="_blank">alex.glowaski@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">True... a sci-fi movie with a legendary badass female protagonist mightn't be our best choice for a bunch of nerdy women.<div><br></div><div>How about "Feminism is Magic"? (You know, that thing of where they take My Little Pony films and overdub them with Gertrude Stein)</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Thomas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom7879@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom7879@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-bottom:0in">To Romy,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">Happy Feminist Night is a fantastic
idea. Please go ahead and create it at Noisebridge! I'll help if
I can.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">Remember that Noisebridge is a
do-ocracy, so you can just do it, or get friends to help you do
it.
You don't need anyone's permission. Of course, you might check
the
main page (<a href="http://noisebridge.net" target="_blank">noisebridge.net</a>) and look at the weekly class/event
offerings there. You could use it to choose the best time and NB
place for it. I'd go for sure!</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">"Alien" is scarier than it is
feminist, and might not bring a pro-feminist audience. Lots of
Sci-Fi
people, though.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">A lot of very important feminist
writers say men can be feminists, including bell hooks. The best
definition I saw in the thread, said "feminism is about women's
liberation." The key word here is "liberation," which
all of us can aspire to.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in"><span style="font-style:normal">Patriarchy
injures
everybody, including men. It brutalizes us and coerces us
into machista roles that severely limit our choices. Men, of
course,
do receive </span><i>some</i><span style="font-style:normal"> benefits
from
patriarchy - but working men, men of color, and gay men are
constantly victimized by it in ways most of them can't even
see. </span>
</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in"><span style="font-style:normal">A
socio-economic analysis reveals that most men are oppressed
under
capitalism. Patriarchy, racism, police brutality all
contribute to
that oppression, and none of them exclude men from the damage
done by
these phenomena. Women are indeed the special victims of
patriarchy,
but they are not the only ones.</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in"><span style="font-style:normal">This
is
not to give more weight to mens' victimization than to that of
women. It is merely to state that which is: both men and women
are
oppressed. If men are willing and able to contribute to the
feminist
project of liberation than they should be free to do so.</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">I know several men who identify as
feminists. I don't wish to contradict them or argue with their
beliefs. Granted, they might identify as other things, too, like
gender-questioning. But men have a stake in liberation as surely
as
women do. So for those men among us who choose to contribute to
the
feminist project, and who call ourselves feminists, let us
remember
that we are doing much more than merely “affirming patriarchy,”
when we strive to break the chains. We are actually helping
everyone to
advance to freedom.</p>
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