<p>Yeah, i know about doocracy and i know there was a rebase. Still, i think the place would be much better without the kitchen and switch it to a ''pay what you can'' communal coffee and microwave station. Which i have brought up a lot. I'm not going to be an enabler for the idealist, autocratic consensus that knows no compromise by cleaning, etc. there needs to be a policy change and no amount of doacracy will allow that.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 9, 2013 1:54 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com">rachel@xtreme.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Anyone who wants to donate in the meantime, see <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Donate_or_Pay_Dues" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/<u></u>wiki/Donate_or_Pay_Dues</a><br>
<br>
On 8/9/13 1:52 PM, Rachel McConnell wrote:<br>
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Nicholas, I think it is unfair to say, "noone is doing anything about<br>
it". First, lots of people are doing things, but since there is not a<br>
full consensus about what the problem is nor what is best to do about<br>
it, sometimes these things counteract each other (e.g. the sleeping<br>
pods) so it's often hard to see. Also, the problem (broadly defined as<br>
non-hackers doing stuff that impedes hacking) is a hard one to solve, as<br>
it is not obvious how to a) identify non-hackers nor how to b) either<br>
make them into hackers or encourage them to not-hack elsewhere.<br>
<br>
Second, if you want changes to happen, please please please make them<br>
happen yourself! You have heard, endlessly, about "doocracy". It is<br>
really a thing. That is really how shit gets done at NB. Yeah, not a<br>
lot of shit gets done, and some things that everyone agrees would be<br>
nice to happen, don't, but that's only because nobody has stepped up to<br>
actually do them. You could do them, you know. (You too, everyone else<br>
who is reading this.)<br>
<br>
Daniel, regarding the donation box: it was stolen some time back<br>
according to an earlier thread. I'm in process of making a new, heavy<br>
and sturdy steel one, but it will take me another week or so. Anyone<br>
who wants to provide one in the meantime, feel free.<br>
<br>
Rachel1.0<br>
<br>
On 8/9/13 1:44 PM, Nicholas LoCicero wrote:<br>
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Fair enough. I do think a lot of changes at noisebridge need to be made,<br>
but nothing is enforceable. Sooo, idk. It's just annoying to keep<br>
hearing the same problem and no one is doing anything about it. I agree<br>
it's a problem that detracts from other peoples use of the space. I took<br>
the picture joke too sensitively. It's friday, be happy!<br>
<br>
I do love noisebridge and am upset nothing changes accept the slow,<br>
entropic demise of the space.<br>
<br>
On Aug 9, 2013 1:35 PM, "Daniel Kelly" <<a href="mailto:arrays.tostring@gmail.com" target="_blank">arrays.tostring@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:arrays.tostring@gmail.com" target="_blank">arrays.tostring@gmail.<u></u>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Nicholas, I carefully excluded clear pictures of anyone's face from<br>
the photos I posted.<br>
<br>
I wouldn't want to accidentally leak the identity of a Noisebridge<br>
bunk bed crasher or couch sleeper.<br>
<br>
That could be anyone in the bunk beds. If it was a couple of body<br>
pillows<br>
plus animated mannequin heads, I apologize. Excellent hack.<br>
<br>
ok snarkiness off. I'm sorry for being rude. There's a huge bunch<br>
of homeless guys camping in noisebridge again.<br>
<br>
In an unrelated item, I wanted to drop off my traditional $10<br>
donation of whenever I walk through the door of 2169 Mission, but I<br>
couldn't find the donation box.<br>
<br>
Have a nice day (really).<br>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Rachel McConnell <<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com" target="_blank">rachel@xtreme.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com" target="_blank">rachel@xtreme.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Rules? What rules? We have *one* guideline: Be excellent to<br>
each other.<br>
<br>
It is of course a matter of debate whether the following are<br>
excellent, or which is less excellent:<br>
<br>
* sleeping at NB<br>
* photographing sleepers at NB<br>
<br>
Rachel1.0<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/9/13 12:54 PM, Nicholas LoCicero wrote:<br>
<br>
I wish you'd do something interesting with your time in the<br>
space.<br>
Instead you break the rules photographing people without<br>
their consent.<br>
<br>
The guy in camo pants fell asleep reading about calculus and<br>
actually<br>
understands java really well.<br>
<br>
Please attend the next meeting, Daniel. I'm not sure you<br>
understand the<br>
rules of this place.<br>
<br>
On Aug 9, 2013 12:13 PM, "Daniel Kelly"<br>
<<a href="mailto:arrays.tostring@gmail.com" target="_blank">arrays.tostring@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrays.tostring@gmail.com" target="_blank">arrays.tostring@gmail.<u></u>com</a>><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:arrays.tostring@gmail." target="_blank">arrays.tostring@gmail.</a><u></u>__com<br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:arrays.tostring@gmail.com" target="_blank">arrays.tostring@gmail.<u></u>com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
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They look so peaceful<br>
<br>
<a href="http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__fVTplDL" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__<u></u>fVTplDL</a><br>
<<a href="http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#fVTplDL" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#<u></u>fVTplDL</a>><br>
<a href="http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__JdP9laC" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__<u></u>JdP9laC</a><br>
<<a href="http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#JdP9laC" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#<u></u>JdP9laC</a>><br>
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