<div dir="ltr">Oh, and we should have a queue of sleepers at the meetings so we can start nipping this problem in the bud. I am sure there is more than 1 person a week abusing this. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Kevin, you are incorrect. I am pretty sure our lease basically states that we are not allowed to "live" there. The law is a great and wonderful thing at how it can be interpreted. Since people are "sleeping" there (whether living or not), the argument could be made that it is an illegal hostel, even if someone sleeps there ONCE, never returns and some other person does the same the next day. That could result in Noisebridge being shut down. That is extremely unexcellent. Honestly, taking a picture of someone is unexcellent but it is less so than having noisebridge shut down. <br>
<br><br>An alternative to having pictures taken would be having a group of people stay there every night and stay awake all night. They would need to do this daily and remember people to keep asking them to leave. If you are unwilling to do this, your opinion is invalid. We need either photographic evidence or the same person to go EVERY night without fail so that we can actually solve this problem. If you ask a person one day, then I ask another and another some other day..... You get the point. It could be the same person many times. If we describe them, they can shave, change their clothes, cut their hair, dye their hair....... A picture helps due to the fact we can have more defined features (face for example) and use that to determine if they have been there. <br>
<br><br></div>Would you like to volunteer to come every night for the next few months, stay up all night and help be excellent to help not take pictures and keep track of the sleepers? I bet you have a job and can't do this. My .02. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Kevin Schiesser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net" target="_blank">bfb@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I disagree fully. There is not a no sleeping rule at Noisebridge. Be excellent, right? Photographing all sleepers is not excellent, and I feel invasive and unnecessary in most situations. It's important that an effort with polite but firmness is made to awaken sleepers before photographing, and certainly before requesting they leave and not come back until a Tuesday meeting.<br>
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My 2c on protocol. I would be very disappointed if we had a queue of sleepers at every Tuesday meeting.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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On 08/25/2013 02:53 AM, Jake wrote:<br>
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Yes Jim that would help. We need to figure out who the people are who are sleeping at noisebridge and ask them (when they're awake) to leave until they come talk about it at a meeting.<br>
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thank you<br>
-jake<br>
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Jim wrote:<br>
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Would it help to take photos of sleepers<br>
and print and post them for the rest of us<br>
to identify?<br>
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On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 05:10 -0700, Alexandra Glowaski wrote:<br>
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7:3 sleepers to wakers; polite-but-firmness and t.A.T.u both failing.<br>
This is a solved problem: will try to pick up some very irritating<br>
kitchen timers befor I come in again. I trust we all know what to do.<br>
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