<div dir="ltr">We are not allowed to use the basement.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Jean-Luc Picard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atari2600a@gmail.com" target="_blank">atari2600a@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>How about the Basement?  Considering
      how much the entry-way & gate are molested, would it be
      possible to use that space or is it not in the lease agreement? 
      Concrete base & everything, right?<div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 09/30/2013 08:44 PM, Oren Beck wrote:<br>
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          <div>On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Snail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:snailtsunami@gmail.com" target="_blank">snailtsunami@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                Based on the size and awesomeness of this kiln, I'm
                going to guess that it is something we can't operate
                safely at the current location (poor ventilation in an
                enclosed space, wooden floors, too much clutter, low
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            <div>IIRC "most" kilns of that size range are no
              more fire etc risk than an electric stove. </div>
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            <div>Risks to rewards? As in: "be careful, but not
              too careful" <br>
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            <div>Consider also ...Perhaps there's LESS risk due
              to clay/ceramic/glass/copper enamel etc all being rather
              incombustible compared to oh- a turkey.<br>
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              YES it needs proper wiring&mounting on the proper base
              that often houses a substantial vent fan  with "Sail
              Switch" interlocks for the power contactors. </div>
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            <div>NO different than a commercial
              grill&fryer siting 20 feet from where I am typing
              this. Vent hoods for example further are dirt cheap as
              salvage from commercial kitchens. Details on request:></div>
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            <div>..The power use is also often way over and
              under estimated for dollars/amps needed. Call it a safe
              estimation of 30-50 amps <br>
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            <div>The summary: GET IT ASAP thence make it safe
              by having a trained tech/trusted team ... audit the
              repairs/install for details. Skimping on small stuff can
              indeed kill folks&buildings but-so can a bog standard
              kitchen stove....which is unremarkable for
              being ubiquitous.</div>
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            <div>One consideration is the new membership
              potential.</div>
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            <div> Of Kiln users that **WILL** bring
              skills&life experience pool expansion that likely will
              enrich all involved parties. 'The utility of a Pro Grade
              Kiln is limitless for all it grants to the
              Hackerspace..Stuff like fundraising <em style="font-weight:bold;font-style:normal;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:16px">Tchotchkes</em> for
              gifting trinkets. since </div>
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            <div>Oren Beck-user of kilns over 30 years.</div>
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