<div dir="ltr">Hey Rachel -- I'd love to hear your specific pain points with noisebridge and why you don't want to come back...</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Rachel McConnell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com" target="_blank">rachel@xtreme.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Can you define the problem?<br>
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There have been many attempts to fix it, and from where I stand they all seem to be addressing different-but-related issues, and tend to fail because Solution X doesn't solve Problem Y, and Problem Y's proponents either refuse to follow along with Solution X, or sometimes actively try to break it.<br>
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I wish you luck, I'd love to feel NB was a place I want to go to again.<br>
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Rachel1.0<div class="im"><br>
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On 10/4/13 6:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni wrote:<br>
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Sure. Lets fix this in two weeks. This saturday and sunday I am busy<br>
but who wants to get together every day for the next two weeks or<br>
however long it takes to sort out, starting monday and get this shit<br>
sorted out? I am free after work. Lets solve this. Lets talk it out,<br>
lets figure this crap out once and for all. We are smart people, we can<br>
do this.<br>
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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Seth David Schoen <<a href="mailto:schoen@loyalty.org" target="_blank">schoen@loyalty.org</a><br></div><div class="im">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:schoen@loyalty.org" target="_blank">schoen@loyalty.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Ronald Cotoni writes:<br>
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> With articles like this we have a massively negative image, as we<br>
should<br>
> for not adequately dealing with these issues.<br>
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As I said a while ago, at 83C there was a very strong understanding that<br>
Noisebridge should not create rules _preemptively_. But at 2169 there<br>
seems to be an understanding that Noisebridge should never create rules<br>
_at all_.<br>
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I think the new understanding is severely broken.<br>
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Seth David Schoen <<a href="mailto:schoen@loyalty.org" target="_blank">schoen@loyalty.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:schoen@loyalty.org" target="_blank">schoen@loyalty.org</a>>><div class="im"><br>
| No haiku patents<br>
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FD9A6AA28193A9F03D4BF4ADC11B36<u></u>DC9C7DD150 | -- Don Marti<br>
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Ronald Cotoni<br>
Systems Engineer<br>
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