<div dir="ltr">Let me really rephrase. DO NOT USE MAIL THAT IS HOSTED IN THE COUNTRY YOU RESIDE IN OR WISH TO VISIT. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I would suggest hosting your own. Do not trust anyone else. You should learn a little about how a server works and do it that way. This is to prevent the NSA snooping that is going on and it only partially helps. DO NOT USE EMAIL BASED IN THE USA! </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com" target="_blank">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span>Hi to all,</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><span>Short apology first I not find the previous post when I asked some two months ago where to get away from yahoo - most of my yahoo emails are unaccessible again, as usually, another lovely "change" of the yahoo messenger so I can not go through that info now.</span></div>
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<span>I'm considering to go for Gmail, the usual conversations, hacker discusses, food hacking base etc, and riseup for the private ones, minimum of conversations, below 30-50 per week I would say, probably less. Does it sounds reasonable? <br>
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<span>##Gmail - What I would like to ask is how much stable/accessible do you consider Gmail (based on your private experience) and if you know what is their approach concerning
changing the menus/bars etc. in the client, do they ask you if you want to use the new one or do they kick you in without any confirmation on your side (like Yahoo)? <br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif">##Riseup - could two people who know me and trust me generate the invitation codes for me and send it to me<br>
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===>>> "To create codes, existing users can login to <a href="http://user.riseup.net" target="_blank">user.riseup.net</a> and click 'Invites'.
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<span>##My own email server - want to start on that and play with that for a year or so seeing if I can do it in a stable and safe way enough, switching for maybe later.<br></span></div><div> <br>##Commercial option - if I invest around $50 per year for a commercial email server, could you once more recommend me what I could get? Some linux/hacker friendly firm or coop/org preferred. Sorry for not checking the thoughts from previous emails, just can not access them (and I would have a problem to find the tread probably
anyway).<br><br>Many thanks for previous and current help and info,<br><br>Sincerely from Jeju,<br><br></div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br>
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