<div dir="ltr">So, not really wishing to presume anything here, but just to let you both know that there's a fairly long and proud tradition of creepy people latching onto women's empowerment projects, anti-rape actions, and feminist agit-prop, so this upfront demonstration of your credentials may not actually be having the wider effect you're hoping it will. For instance, there's that whole Hugo Schwyzer thing. And, closer to home, one of the guys we had to swiftly ban from visiting Noisebridge because of his past history stalking women, and present history of sneaking into people's houses and leering over their beds while they slept, that guy was ALL ABOUT attending the anti-rape marches. <br>
<br>It's actually -- and I know this will be intensely frustrating, because what are you SUPPOSED to do, right? -- a bit of an indicator of creepiness. You pretty much have to fight off the creepy people from such events with a giant creep-resistant creepstick. <br>
<br>For instance, at least for me, this whole thread actually making me *more* uncomfortable, because it feels like you're using the situation of other people and using them to defend your own positions. I mean, I rarely actually respond to people going "you're a bit classist" by going no actually my sister is totally cockney, and I spent a lot of time working with working class people, they're great. That would be ... weird, no? And imply for all my loveliness I still somewhat view that segment of the world as a external objectified other that I am nevertheless strangely and persistently fascinated with. <br>
<br>The actual better strategy is to go "oh huh I had not thought about my words or actions being interpreted that way, thanks for the head's up!". And then, you know, you have some cycles to consider what you've done, and plenty more time to plot the downfall of the evil radfem conspiracy and/or destruction of hoi-polloi more quietly offline.<br>
<br>Love,<br><br>d.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Andrew Byrne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com" target="_blank">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Oct 17, 2013 5:55 PM, "Johny Radio" <<a href="mailto:johnyradio@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnyradio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div>
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<blockquote type="cite">that's pretty cool, but why do you bring it up?</blockquote>
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i was inspired by that cool Mother Jones article posted by Holly
McDede about tech inventions by women. <br>
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