<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_extra">I'll be honest that I cannot really pay attention to what you're writing because every time I start reading all I hear is, "HUU-MAN FEE-MALES!" [What's the point in even BRINGING UP Ferengi if you aren't familiar with the famous misogynistic culture of the Ferengi in TNG/Star Trek, who exclusively refer to their women as "females"? Seriously, now I am sad. :(]<br>
</div><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z4gtPUP5H6o#t=93" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z4gtPUP5H6o#t=93</a><br><br></div>I also still think it's bullshit to NOT have a formal method of helping people with cases of harassment or assault in the interest of "helping them find their inner strength", just because you believe that maybe sometimes we're too harsh on people who stalk/harass/assault others. I think the gent you claimed was asking too many people on dates or however lightly you put it is one of the two STALKERS we've ejected, and if you can't TELL the difference or see a problem with that then I agree with Rachel that you should hire someone to help you grok "what the fuck".<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM, jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com" target="_blank">jim@systemateka.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
That may be the case for you; not for me. I<br>
stand by my claim that Ceren's email was<br>
antagonistic and insulting.<br>
<br>
I stand by my dislike that anyone would turn<br>
too quickly to the community for formal support.<br>
My meaning is that anyone should try, at<br>
least, to deal with things with one's self and<br>
one's friends and to apply to people in the<br>
vicinity to help deal. That seems healthy and<br>
potentially strengthening.<br>
That's my point of view and I do not see how<br>
it's insulting or unsupportive.<br>
If you disagree, fine.<br>
<br>
You haven't answered my question whether you<br>
are trolling me.<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 22:22 -0800, Snail wrote:<br>
> No one is fooled, Jim. We're all pretty sure this wasn't Ceren who<br>
> instigated a slew of e-mails saying that JIM's ideas have, to be<br>
> polite, slipped the surly bonds of earth. You yourself can only be<br>
> blamed for the responses against you, and you're just making yourself<br>
> look worse for lashing out at this person like they are to blame for<br>
> things you wrote yourself.<br>
><br>
> Anyway, we're all pretty sure here that the unpleasant turn - or<br>
> lulzical dance - actually began with<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com" target="_blank">jim@systemateka.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > As to females being harassed, for cases of<br>
> > crude coppings of feels, I dislike taht female<br>
> > turning to the community for support<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM, jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com" target="_blank">jim@systemateka.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
That may be the case for you; not for me. I<br>
stand by my claim that Ceren's email was<br>
antagonistic and insulting.<br>
<br>
I stand by my dislike that anyone would turn<br>
too quickly to the community for formal support.<br>
My meaning is that anyone should try, at<br>
least, to deal with things with one's self and<br>
one's friends and to apply to people in the<br>
vicinity to help deal. That seems healthy and<br>
potentially strengthening.<br>
That's my point of view and I do not see how<br>
it's insulting or unsupportive.<br>
If you disagree, fine.<br>
<br>
You haven't answered my question whether you<br>
are trolling me.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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<br>
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On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 22:22 -0800, Snail wrote:<br>
> No one is fooled, Jim. We're all pretty sure this wasn't Ceren who<br>
> instigated a slew of e-mails saying that JIM's ideas have, to be<br>
> polite, slipped the surly bonds of earth. You yourself can only be<br>
> blamed for the responses against you, and you're just making yourself<br>
> look worse for lashing out at this person like they are to blame for<br>
> things you wrote yourself.<br>
><br>
> Anyway, we're all pretty sure here that the unpleasant turn - or<br>
> lulzical dance - actually began with<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com">jim@systemateka.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > As to females being harassed, for cases of<br>
> > crude coppings of feels, I dislike taht female<br>
> > turning to the community for support<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> -Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails<br>
> ............. _@y<br>
> <a href="http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/</a><br>
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