<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>I wish I had the patience and virtue to respond in a manner as Jim. However in my case compared to many others I believe that he had actually worded quite well what I believe in too and which I hope will lead to a more just society in general - just to all participants.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Sincerely,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family:
 HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>FAA<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><div><br></div><div>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
 dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:27 AM, jim <jim@systemateka.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <div class="y_msg_container"><br clear="none">    Characteristically thoughtful. I'm guessing <br clear="none">we've done at least a little of each, exercising <br clear="none">and exorcising. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 04:55 +0800, Oren Beck wrote:<br clear="none">> Dialog about stuff that makes folks bristle can defang the unhealthy<br clear="none">> power we grant to some situations. Being blunt- Discussion can either<br clear="none">> Exorcise or Exercise the Demons of any scene.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Oren Beck<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> 816.632.3695<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:48 AM, hep <<a shape="rect"
 ymailto="mailto:dis@gruntle.org" href="mailto:dis@gruntle.org">dis@gruntle.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>         I would like to second this. Tho it probably often seems like<br clear="none">>         I am just being a super jerk picking on words, I employ<br clear="none">>         hyperbolic rewording as a way to demonstrate how what is said<br clear="none">>         is often not what is heard. Jim has kept his cool and<br clear="none">>         responded without abuse every time, and it gives me hope for<br clear="none">>         social change. big ups<br clear="none">>         <br clear="none">>         <br clear="none">>         -hep<br clear="none">>         <br clear="none">>         <br
 clear="none">>         On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rachel McConnell<br clear="none">>         <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com" href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com">rachel@xtreme.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>                 I would like to point out that despite my disagreement<br clear="none">>                 with Jim's opinion, his behavior in this altercation<br clear="none">>                 has been great.  He has read everything and responded<br clear="none">>                 without sarcasm or dismissiveness to clarify his<br clear="none">>                 points.  If he won't change his opinion, so be it; I<br clear="none">>     
            wish everyone on this list would be as calm and<br clear="none">>                 respectful when they are called out for something.<br clear="none">>                  Everyone in the world, actually.<br clear="none">>                 <br clear="none">>                 Rachel1.0<br clear="none">>                 _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>                 Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br clear="none">>                 <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"
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