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Actually I was gonna list problems on the machines themselves, but
there was no more painters tape lying around. I know I can buy a
roll myself & bring it over, but I had to prepare for a
3-hours-imminent 28hr lock-in in a hotel room where the downstairs
staff can't know I'm staying in my girls room while she's out. The
people at NB were actually pretty helpful in helping me plan out
what calorie-dense food to buy under the limitations at hand.
Anyways, I was on a tight budget so personal expenses came before
the collective good.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/23/2013 02:00 PM, Al Sweigart
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Jordan, I think you get the idea. I just
want to clarify: It is useful to have spare parts around. It is
not useful to have junk around.
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<div>A big problem is when people externalize the work needed to
identify working/broken things to the community at large. If a
laptop doesn't work but some components do, do the work of
pulling off the working stuff and then label it as what it is,
that it is working, and the date that it was donated (just so
if it goes unused for years we know to toss it). Having your
contact info on the part would be good too, so people know who
to direct questions to. (Also, write this info on masking tape
or a tag and attach it, don't write directly on the parts.) If
a computer mostly works, write down specifically what needs to
be done to make it work again.</div>
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<div>This seems like a lot of work, but a big problem at
Noisebridge is people finding stuff and thinking, "Does this
work? What is this exactly?" This discourages people from both
using stuff and throwing it away, leading to the large clutter
problem we have.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:53 PM,
Jean-Luc Picard <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Just the fan; the
HDD's still there. They said they had no confidential
data on the machine & I was all whatevs. All it needs
is one of those a-little-larger-than-atx-screw-on fans
that goes in the Dell(TM) PowerFunnel(R) & maybe a
rubber bushing since I broke one on parts removal, but
scotch tape would suffice just as well.<br>
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There's a possibility the mobo is the reason the fan isn't
spinning but I find this unlikely.<br>
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Also, the laptops have useful optical drives, SO-DIMMS,
screens, but okay, I'll gut before donation next time a
client brings me a totalled machine for donation. The
reflow laptop would be great surface-mount soldering
practice for NB anyways! We have the heat gun, we just
need one of those surface solder kits & some sets of
balls! The towel trick might even work but good luck
getting it to work more than 1 reboot.
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Al,
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<div>I think your a little off-base here although
I do think e-waste at Noisebridge can be a
problem. Dropping unusable stuff like busted CRT
monitors to make them NBs recycling burden would
be pushing it.</div>
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<div>The Dell desktop could probably be repaired
with parts laying around. HDD and replacement
fan, good to go. Headless PCs can still be
useful. </div>
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<div>The laptops, depending on age, may be useful
for a staving hacker to use for parts to repair
their existing laptop. This actually can reduce
overall ewaste. Isn't there a group at NB that
does electronic strip-down and re-use of
electronics? Ideally, re-use not recycle is
better for the ewaste situation and environment
in general.</div>
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<div>Another idea which may be semi-practical is
creating LCD drivers/controllers so old LCDs can
be reused as working displays. I've seen various
suppliers make LCD testers which do
a vaguely similar function. Power up an LCD and
confirm it displays properly, away from the host
laptop setup.</div>
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<div>Also, wasn't Jim involved in actually
removing ewaste to recycling. </div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>John</div>
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<div>PS. Jean-Luc, if the Dell Desktop is still
available and unwanted at NB, I'll take it off
your hands to use as a dev/test box.</div>
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3:15 AM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">We appreciate your intent, but
if the computers don't turn on, then they'll
just sit around for months until we throw
them away (and e-waste disposal is not
free). Please don't donate broken stuff.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22,
2013 at 4:49 PM, Jean-Luc Picard <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:atari2600a@gmail.com"
target="_blank">atari2600a@gmail.com</a>></span>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">As usual,
I'm attempting to pay an equivalent
of an associate membership fee w/
donations from home or work. This
is actually the first time I've
announced that I do this at all on
the lists but here I am doing it
anyway.<br>
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Dell desktop -- runs XP, needs new
CPU fan but should boot right up
otherwise. Do the Administrator
trick or run ophcrack to get in.<br>
Dell laptop -- annoying as hell to
get to the internals. Needs new
HDD, chips reflowed.<br>
Compaq laptop -- Won't turn on. I
tried popping both batteries &
draining the caps. Afterwards I
tore out the HDD for a secure
destruction of the data as
instructed by my client.<br>
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All this should come out to about
$20 in salvageable parts (DIMMS,
fans, HDD's, etc). Expect to hear
from me in another month, when I'll
probably have more stuff to donate.<br>
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FYI: my past donations have been
more functional; mostly SO-DIMMS,
broken ipods w/ guttable HDD's, etc.
You know, things that don't last a
week in Noisebridge.<br>
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