<div dir="ltr">Please don't compare Noisebridge to a residence.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Actually you know what. �Here is how I feel. �<div><br></div><div>Imagine noisebridge is my apartment. �I have this area where I store things that I like to be able to get to. �I have house guests over (anyone who visits noisebrdge) and they keep leaving crap on the floor preventing me from getting to the things I want to get to. �You know what I do? �I stop letting them in my apartment. �What does noisebridge do? �Something completely different that allows the things to keep preventing me from getting to the things I like to be able to get to. �This includes physical and non physical objects. �We are missing a logical step in preventing that and I have no clue how to fix it but that is what is going on. �We keep talking about the color of the bike shed without actually building the bike shed really. ��</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is how I feel. � <3 you noisebridge!</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">IMHO, I don't care what is in the suitcase. �It is not excellent to leave the member shelf area a shithole where you can't walk down it. �A suit case in the space (given past experiences) were usually peoples "apartments". �They contained all of their worldly possessions. �If that person is a "Well known member of noisebridge", they should know better and I propose they go on a hiatus for a while to rethink their actions and how they affect the space. �I also suggest this for everyone who has contributed to making the member shelf area a mess by you know, leaving things on the ground and making it unusable for actual people trying to hack. �Perhaps I was not very excellent in the way I got my point across. �Perhaps you are too understanding of this "Well known member of noisebridge" and he has some political capital that allows him to continue this behavior. �The world will never know!</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Get a room, you two!</div><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Jeffrey</div></font></span><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM, spinach williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spinach.williams@gmail.com" target="_blank">spinach.williams@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Text is an ambiguous way to communicate, I'll try to clarify. What I meant was that people seemed to be overreacting and projecting way more on Ronald's words than he said or probably intended. I just noted that Ronald didn't say all that much to get this derision heaped on him. I didn't mean anything like, "the 'winner' is the argument with the lowest word count". And I wouldn't characterize your "how kind" comment as part of the overreaction.<br>
</div></blockquote></div><div>intention does not determine impact. <br></div></div></div></div>
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