<div dir="ltr">Ok, an office. A clubhouse. A business. A non profit.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Please don't compare Noisebridge to a residence.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Actually you know what. Here is how I feel. <div><br></div><div>Imagine noisebridge is my apartment. I have this area where I store things that I like to be able to get to. I have house guests over (anyone who visits noisebrdge) and they keep leaving crap on the floor preventing me from getting to the things I want to get to. You know what I do? I stop letting them in my apartment. What does noisebridge do? Something completely different that allows the things to keep preventing me from getting to the things I like to be able to get to. This includes physical and non physical objects. We are missing a logical step in preventing that and I have no clue how to fix it but that is what is going on. We keep talking about the color of the bike shed without actually building the bike shed really. </div>
<div><br></div><div>This is how I feel. <3 you noisebridge!</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">IMHO, I don't care what is in the suitcase. It is not excellent to leave the member shelf area a shithole where you can't walk down it. A suit case in the space (given past experiences) were usually peoples "apartments". They contained all of their worldly possessions. If that person is a "Well known member of noisebridge", they should know better and I propose they go on a hiatus for a while to rethink their actions and how they affect the space. I also suggest this for everyone who has contributed to making the member shelf area a mess by you know, leaving things on the ground and making it unusable for actual people trying to hack. Perhaps I was not very excellent in the way I got my point across. Perhaps you are too understanding of this "Well known member of noisebridge" and he has some political capital that allows him to continue this behavior. The world will never know!</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Get a room, you two!</div><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Jeffrey</div></font></span><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM, spinach williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spinach.williams@gmail.com" target="_blank">spinach.williams@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Text is an ambiguous way to communicate, I'll try to clarify. What I meant was that people seemed to be overreacting and projecting way more on Ronald's words than he said or probably intended. I just noted that Ronald didn't say all that much to get this derision heaped on him. I didn't mean anything like, "the 'winner' is the argument with the lowest word count". And I wouldn't characterize your "how kind" comment as part of the overreaction.<br>
</div></blockquote></div><div>intention does not determine impact. <br></div></div></div></div>
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