<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Well it is hard not to notice, discuss has some disadvantages but you can still see some things quite clearly if you take time, especially if you keep in touch with people who are long contributors to the place. <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Yes it has a been a while and as you know very well and you like to forget that, it was an overstep which I acknowledge, the work which I did in the place
and what was the major focus, as the active community in the time well knew brought its fruits. Good lesson to learn and keeping my living arrangements better organized in last years and years to come worked quite well for me.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div>I wonder if you learn your one eventually, but based on recent posts doesn't looks like. I'll keep it at that, work it out by yourself. <br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Sincerely,<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><div><br></div><div>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, December 9, 2013 11:09 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7936827755"><div><div dir="ltr">I'm surprised you noticed, Frantisek. You haven't lived at the space using the DJ
booth as your personal bedroom since November 2010.</div>
<div class="yiv7936827755gmail_quote">On Dec 8, 2013 5:48 PM, "Frantisek Apfelbeck" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7936827755gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="yiv7936827755yqt2531494900" id="yiv7936827755yqt59650"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;"><div><span>Ohh so people are starting to notice? Good.</span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div>
<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org/">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Monday, December 9, 2013 2:23 AM, jim <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jim@systemateka.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com">jim@systemateka.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none">[forwarding a sarcasm from someone who <br clear="none">
wants to be anonymous] <br clear="none">How about Noisebridge Gestapo or NoisebridgeSS? <br clear="none"><br clear="none">[From me] <br clear="none"> Charles Tang wrote some very well expressed <br clear="none">criticisms of the Noisebridge activists who seem <br clear="none">
[to me] to be imposing their views on others: <br clear="none">Tom, Al, Jake (spaz), Danny, and others. <br clear="none"> I know you activists are driven by <br clear="none">frustration, but the result is angry and <br clear="none">
inconsiderate; patience is a virtue. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 18:44 -0800, Tom Lowenthal wrote:<br clear="none">> I have proposed the following on the [upcoming consensus items][1] page:<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">> > Renaming the category
“Noisebridge Members” to the “Noisebridge Council”, and<br clear="none">> > renaming the category “Associate Members” to “Noisebridge Members”. This change<br clear="none">> > extends not only to our operations, but also to our bylaws, so that the effect is only<br clear="none">
> > a change of name but does not change the rights or privileges of any person or<br clear="none">> > category of people.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> If this topic is of interest to you, I invite you to come discuss it<br clear="none">
> on Tuesday. I'm not a huge fan of the string “Noisebridge Council”,<br clear="none">> and would be interested in other options. “Noisebridge High Cabal”,<br clear="none">> perhaps?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">
> See you Tuesday,<br clear="none">> -Tom<br clear="none">> --<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> [1]: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items</a><br clear="none">
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