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</head><body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">My understanding of the
proposal is to re-evaluate Associate Membership in February, so no
definition of what happens if we get rid of them has been provided.<br>
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I think having consensus on new members is pretty overzealous. Some
combination of the two processes might be better (4 week trial period,
written statement on the wiki, and 4 sponsors seems appropriate to me).<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Madelynn<br>
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this would get rid of the concept of associate members? And would not
convert them to being members? Would they still (technically) be able to
come to Noisebridge on their own?<div><br></div>
<div>Am I right in saying that basically the idea of having associate
members was to 1) make it easy to become an associate member since no
single person could block it (rather, you'd have to have a unanimous
vote to block someone) and 2) on the other side, associate members
couldn't unilaterally block consensus items?</div>
<div><br></div><div>It did always feel like a hack to me. I'd rather
just have the regular members all become associate members since
blocking is such a nuclear option, causing people to circumvent the
consensus process entirely (which leads to drama).</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Al</div>
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"Noisebridge should attach an expiration period of 90 days,
beginning October 29, 2013, to the consensus decision <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="Meeting Notes 2013 10 29"
href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013_10_29#Proposal_to_create_an_Associate_Member_role_and_limit_access_to_Noisebridge_24.2F7_to_Member.2C_Associate_Member_and_thoes_hosted_by_M_and_AM">to
create an Associate Member
role</a>. All subsequent mutations of the original consensus
should be brought for a second consensus, beginning February 4,
2014.
"<br>
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href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items</a>
for
details.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Kevin<br>
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