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</head><body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Kevin, I agree with this 
consensus item 100%. Definitely think there's more consideration needed 
on Associate Membership.<br>
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Since neither Associate Member or Member has to pay dues anymore, the 
distinction is irrelevant. <br>
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Issues of security in the space should be resolved with hardware changes
 (additional security) rather than membership. Noisebridge, like any 
other hackerspace, is for members and guests, and should be treated 
accordingly. <br>
<br>
I caution against the distinction between the two membership types, 
because it limits the pool of those participating in consensus, leading 
to a more political (aka not representative) and less productive 
consensus process. While not all members will want to contribute to the 
consensus process, good to give them all the opportunity.<br>
<br>
Just my two cents. Happy to discuss further with anyone offline. <br>
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Cheers,<br>
Madelynn<br>
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    "Noisebridge should attach an expiration period of 90 days,
    beginning October 29, 2013, to the consensus decision <a 
moz-do-not-send="true" title="Meeting Notes 2013 10 29" 
href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013_10_29#Proposal_to_create_an_Associate_Member_role_and_limit_access_to_Noisebridge_24.2F7_to_Member.2C_Associate_Member_and_thoes_hosted_by_M_and_AM">to
 create an Associate Member
      role</a>. All subsequent mutations of the original consensus
    should be brought for a second consensus, beginning February 4,
    2014.
    "<br>
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href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items" 
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 for
    details.<br>
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    Thanks,<br>
    Kevin<br>
  
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