<div dir="ltr">Just to clarify, this would get rid of the concept of associate members? And would not convert them to being members? Would they still (technically) be able to come to Noisebridge on their own?<div><br></div>
<div>Am I right in saying that basically the idea of having associate members was to 1) make it easy to become an associate member since no single person could block it (rather, you'd have to have a unanimous vote to block someone) and 2) on the other side, associate members couldn't unilaterally block consensus items?</div>
<div><br></div><div>It did always feel like a hack to me. I'd rather just have the regular members all become associate members since blocking is such a nuclear option, causing people to circumvent the consensus process entirely (which leads to drama).</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Al</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Madelynn Martiniere <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmartiniere@gmail.com" target="_blank">mmartiniere@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Kevin, I agree with this
consensus item 100%. Definitely think there's more consideration needed
on Associate Membership.<br>
<br>
Since neither Associate Member or Member has to pay dues anymore, the
distinction is irrelevant. <br>
<br>
Issues of security in the space should be resolved with hardware changes
(additional security) rather than membership. Noisebridge, like any
other hackerspace, is for members and guests, and should be treated
accordingly. <br>
<br>
I caution against the distinction between the two membership types,
because it limits the pool of those participating in consensus, leading
to a more political (aka not representative) and less productive
consensus process. While not all members will want to contribute to the
consensus process, good to give them all the opportunity.<br>
<br>
Just my two cents. Happy to discuss further with anyone offline. <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Madelynn<br>
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Text:<br>
"Noisebridge should attach an expiration period of 90 days,
beginning October 29, 2013, to the consensus decision <a title="Meeting Notes 2013 10 29" href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013_10_29#Proposal_to_create_an_Associate_Member_role_and_limit_access_to_Noisebridge_24.2F7_to_Member.2C_Associate_Member_and_thoes_hosted_by_M_and_AM" target="_blank">to
create an Associate Member
role</a>. All subsequent mutations of the original consensus
should be brought for a second consensus, beginning February 4,
2014.
"<br>
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See <a href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items" target="_blank">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items</a>
for
details.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Kevin<br>
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