<div dir="ltr">This seems similar to the "invalidate the associates member" item from a couple weeks ago, except it puts the expiration date in the future. Wouldn't it be more prudent to simply revisit the topic at that date to see if people's feelings have changed at that point in time?<div>
<br></div><div>On a personal note: The two-tiered member structure does make me uncomfortable. Associate members were created because it's so hard to become a capital-m member (ugg, a term I dislike), but it's hard to become a Member because it grants that person the Nuclear Option of blocking. I think if we address that, then the member issue gets solved as well.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, bfb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net" target="_blank">bfb@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>I added a line to the text to clarify. The intent is to create a trial period where Noisebridge can hack, experiment and tweak, in good faith, the associate member consensus made on 10-29-2013.<div><br></div><div>If no second consensus can be reached in February, the associate member role goes away, member dues are reinstated, and Noisebridge is open to the public 24/7.</div>
<div class="im"><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Gregory Dillon <u></u> <br>Date:12/10/2013 17:59 (GMT-08:00) <br>To: Kevin Schiesser <u></u> <br>Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <u></u> <br>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Added proposal to current consensus items <br>
<br><div dir="ltr">Could you clarify what this means? Its seems well intended, convoluted and imprecise. Does it suggest retroactively doing something in the future? Just what is the "original consensus" I could guess, but its not clear. What is a mutation? I don't want to be a mutation. Isn't $date + 90 before Feb 4, and if so what happens when that bell rings?, do the Associate Members transform into Capital M members or are they outsiders? I can see the point of wanting to review a certain consensus item, but I can't make out what this would do.<div>
<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Kevin Schiesser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net" target="_blank">bfb@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Text:<br>
"Noisebridge should attach an expiration period of 90 days,
beginning October 29, 2013, to the consensus decision <a href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013_10_29#Proposal_to_create_an_Associate_Member_role_and_limit_access_to_Noisebridge_24.2F7_to_Member.2C_Associate_Member_and_thoes_hosted_by_M_and_AM" title="Meeting Notes 2013 10 29" target="_blank">to create an Associate Member
role</a>. All subsequent mutations of the original consensus
should be brought for a second consensus, beginning February 4,
2014.
"<br>
<br>
See <a href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items" target="_blank">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items</a> for
details.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Kevin<br>
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