<div dir="ltr"><div class="im" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"before that it was a guy whose rants were set off by a fish tank"<div><br></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
why don't you take a look at what everyone did the wikipage.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font face="arial, sans-serif">The rants were not about the fish tank, they were how I was treated because of it.</font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Clearly, I wasn't the only one ranting.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">And I wasn't set off. I mean you've complained much more about the "sleepers" than I have about the fish tank.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 December 2013 12:07, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">That time it was an amusing lawyer, before that it was a guy whose rants were set off by a fish tank, before that it was a long list of people who thought it was fine to cook personal meals, sleep, and live in the space. While the lawyer was an outlier (more tedious than amusing), the pattern is that Noisebridge attracts a lot of pushy, entitled people. The consensus & anarchism culture of "no rules, no one is the boss of me" allows strong-willed people to bully their way around while making others feel like they have no place to tell them to stop.<div>
<br></div><div>Lawyer or no, I still think Madelynn's original five points summarize very real problems.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM, The Batkid <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:batkid@gmx.com" target="_blank">batkid@gmx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px"><div>>I'm talking about oddness like someone who was asked to come back to a >Tuesday meeting after anti-social behaviour ending up in a screaming >match, followed by his lawyer making legal threats to everyone there. >Or the discussions around people hiding in spaces to sleep. Or leaving >human crap everywhere. etc.<br>
<br></div>I don't think you should blame the consensus process for the amusing lawyer<br>that was an outlier, that particular lawyer has a decades long history of being<br>very antagonizing to try to reach her goals.</span></span>
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