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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree with Madelynn that the current
decision making process isn't working well and should be changed.
As organizations change and grow change in inevitable or the
organization will die.<br>
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Now about "consensus".<br>
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From Merriam-Webster: Consensus<br>
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<div class="scnt">1<span class="ssens"> <em class="sn">a</em>
<strong>:</strong> general agreement <strong>:</strong> <a
href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unanimity">unanimity</a>
<span class="vi"><the <em>consensus</em> of their
opinion, based on reports … from the border — John
Hersey></span> </span><span class="ssens">
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<em class="sn"> b</em> <strong>:</strong> the judgment
arrived at by most of those concerned <span class="vi"><the
<em>consensus</em> was to go ahead></span> </span></div>
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<div class="scnt">2<span class="ssens"> <strong>:</strong>
group <a
href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/solidarity"
class="d_link" onclick="_gaq.push(['_trackEvent',
'Enhancement - link', 'Clicked', 'solidarity']);">solidarity</a>
in sentiment and belief </span></div>
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Although not exactly the same process at NB, I have been involved
for many years with an organization that only uses the consensus
process for making decisions.<br>
<br>
I attend the RSOF (Religious Society Of Friends - the Quakers)
meeting in San Francisco. All Quaker Meetings are independent
organizations with no involuntary central authority. At our
monthly meeting for business all decisions are arrived at by
consensus. By consensus I am not referring to the process used at
Noisebridge. If there are strong opinions one way or the other the
decision will be put off for a month so people can think about it.<br>
<br>
When I first attended a NB meeting I was surprised by the process
used thee. If you will look at the definition above you won't see
anything about a veto vote.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">You are entitled to your own opinion.
You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
Norman</pre>
On 12/14/2013 2:41 PM, Al Sweigart wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Does anyone on the list have experience with other
hackerspaces and how they're run? Or even non-small nonprofits
in general. It would be good to get more input.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 14, 2013 11:58 AM, "The Batkid"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:batkid@gmx.com">batkid@gmx.com</a>>
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<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">>I'm
talking about oddness like someone who was asked to come
back to a >Tuesday meeting after anti-social behaviour
ending up in a screaming >match, followed by his lawyer
making legal threats to everyone there. >Or the
discussions around people hiding in spaces to sleep. Or
leaving >human crap everywhere. etc.<br>
<br>
I don't think you should blame the consensus process for
the amusing lawyer<br>
that was an outlier, that particular lawyer has a decades
long history of being<br>
very antagonizing to try to reach her goals.</span></span>
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