<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt">Correction, my main objection was that Pigeon was 1. He was asked to leave by Rayc two days before and not return before the next Tuesday meeting. He did not honor that . 2. When asked to leave again for that reason by a group of six or seven people he refused. <br><br>Tom blocked my proposal to ban him for those reasons.<br><br>It was Pigeon who made me aware of the need for a different pronoun. That was the original impetus for the use of E. <br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, December 20, 2013 7:54 PM, johny radio <johnyradio@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2267254991"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv2267254991gmail_extra"><div class="yiv2267254991yqt7535491462" id="yiv2267254991yqtfd47581"><div class="yiv2267254991gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Danny O'Brien <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:danny@spesh.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danny@spesh.com">danny@spesh.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv2267254991gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">previously you were lobbying for Pidgeon, who uses<br clear="none">
gender-neutral pronouns to describe eself, to be thrown out of<br clear="none">
Noisebridge.<br clear="none"></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>(i might be off-base here, but....)<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">Danny, it sounds like you're saying Monad lobbied against Pigeon BECAUSE Pigeon preferred non-gender-specific pronouns. Do you really think so?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><div>That would be like saying that the reason Danny O'Brien lobbied to shut down the kitchen (as you did at a meeting past), it was because Danny doesn't like people who use non-gender-specific pronouns.<br clear="none">
</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I believe None of the above is the case. I believe we three are on the same page about this: our objection is to non-hackers using noisebridge as their personal kitchen. <br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv2267254991yqt7535491462" id="yiv2267254991yqtfd91780">
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