<div dir="ltr">Hope this discussion helped some others. Thanks everyone! </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Alison Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We're doing some heavy image loading and the BLE didn't have the throughput we needed. But this may be solved later with some improved engineering on the app side; I think a lot can be solved with clever compression. <div>


<br></div><div>Here is an update on the MFI stuff. We got our license. Took a little bit, but it was not as hard as you think. Yea! It was free so far and took about 3 weeks! - Alison<div><br></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb">

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Tyler Freeman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tyler@odbol.com" target="_blank">tyler@odbol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



  
    
  
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    Coming in to this rather late, but depending on your needs, you
    should definitely consider going with Bluetooth LE. It doesn't have
    as much throughput, but is actually faster at connecting and sending
    small packets of data (the whole connect/send/disconnect process
    takes about 3ms, compared to 200-500ms on classic Bluetooth). <br>
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    I'd recommend the BlueGiga BLE112: it offers a very robust
    connection to iOS and is really easy to set up. You can probably get
    it and have it working in iOS within a day (compared to MFI
    certification process which can take months and $$$$$). <br>
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    Of course, if you're trying to stream lots of data like a video or
    audio stream, BLE is not for you.<br>
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    -Tyelr<div><div><br>
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    <div>On 12/20/13 2:40 PM, Anders Nelson
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      <div dir="ltr">Derp, I forgot to mention everything MFI requires a
        considerable investment (time or money) in firmware. Microchip
        Technology offers a stack here:
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        <div><a href="http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/technology/smartphoneaccessory/tools/home.html" target="_blank">http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/technology/smartphoneaccessory/tools/home.html</a><br>



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        <div>It provides an excellent API and is the lowest cost option
          you'll likely find.</div>
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        <div>--<br>
          Anders Nelson<br>
          <br>
          <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28517%29%20775-6129" value="+15177756129" target="_blank">+1 (517) 775-6129</a><br>
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          <a href="http://www.erogear.com" target="_blank">www.erogear.com</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Anders
          Nelson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders.k.nelson@gmail.com" target="_blank">anders.k.nelson@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi Alison,
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              <div>I handled the MFI program at my previous job, so
                here's how it works:</div>
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              <div>-Some MFI-enabled radio manufacturers embed the
                Apple-specific authentication chip into their module and
                I believe you can buy said module without having to go
                through Apple's MFI certification.</div>
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              <div>-In order to use any IAP commands outside of simple
                remote controls (play/pause/prev/next/etc.) your
                hardware accessory must have an MFI authentication chip
                onboard.</div>
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              <div>-Bluetooth classic and dock connector communication
                (via IAP or the accessory framework) both require an MFI
                chip. BTLE does <i>not</i> require an MFI chip.</div>
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              <div>-Bluetooth classic communication is relatively fast
                so I've heard. The dock connector can only push 5-7kB
                per second.</div>
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              <div>I suggest using BTLE to get around the fruity bits.</div>
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              <div>--<br>
                Anders Nelson<br>
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                <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28517%29%20775-6129" value="+15177756129" target="_blank">+1 (517) 775-6129</a><br>
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                <a href="http://www.erogear.com" target="_blank">www.erogear.com</a></div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:09
                    PM, Alison Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>></span>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Thanks Eden. Thanks thats only on
                        LE. We've got an old chip. Good info for the
                        future!!! - A</div>
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                          <div>On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Eden
                            Sherry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:e@eden2.com" target="_blank">e@eden2.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                            <div>There are no Apple restrictions on the
                              type of BLE devices apps can connect to,
                              and no Apple certification to go through.<br>
                              <br>
                              If you are having issues seeing or
                              connecting to your device, it is a problem
                              with the device itself or your iOS code.<br>
                              <br>
                              LightBlue is a useful app to sanity-check
                              on the phone side. If your device is
                              advertising correctly, it should appear in
                              that app.<br>
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                              Eden<br>
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                                  > On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM,
                                  Alison Lewis <<a href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    > Hi guys/gals,<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Anyone with BlueGiga experience
                                    and connecting through iOS devices?
                                    We have a BlueGiga and no Apple
                                    activation chip. Have some
                                    questions, here's the first two:<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Does the company who put on a
                                    BlueGiga chip need some sort of
                                    apple chip too?<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Does the company who put on the
                                    BlueGiga chip need to go through the
                                    MFI program? How fast can you get
                                    through it?<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Is there any work around this
                                    issue that people have dealt with
                                    before?<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Love to talk to someone that's
                                    been through this.<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Gracias!   - Alison<br>
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