<div dir="ltr">I sometimes feel that sleeping vs resting eyes vs napping is akin to what color should we paint the bike shed?  It just is easier to say the bike sheds we make are always going to be X color.  Thats it.  The differences between resting your eyes, napping and sleeping are almost irrelevant.  It just leads to more discussion and wasted time when we could just deal with it one way or another and call the issue "CLOSED FIXED".  </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM, John Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" target="_blank">neurofog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Al,</div><div><br></div>i'll start making morning appearances more often and see whos there and what they are working on in the space.<div><br></div><div>My concern was turning the "no overnight sleeping" policy into a witch hunt for napping or "closing ones eyes" when some people really do hack all night.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>John<br><div><br></div></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">While it is fun to imagine technical solutions, it basically comes down to having people wake others up and making Noisebridge a place where people don't sleep overnight at.<div>

<br></div><div>Unfortunately, the sleepers both a) repeatedly sleep overnight even though they know the community overwhelmingly is against it but b) there's a minority of members who will block banning these sleepers from the space.<br>



<div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Alfred Perlstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bright@mu.org" target="_blank">bright@mu.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>



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    <div>On 1/27/14, 10:06 AM, Oren Beck wrote:<br>
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          <div>Wake up by Quadcopter and follow spot+PA.<br>
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          YOU_YES..YOU!!! WAKE UP AND LEAVE BEFORE FORMAL TRESPASS
          CHARGES ARE FILED!<br>
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        trespass seems logical. <br>
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        <div>Oren Beck<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Alfred
          Perlstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bright@mu.org" target="_blank">bright@mu.org</a>></span>
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                <div>On 1/27/14 9:39 AM, Norman Bradley wrote:<br>
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                  <div>I can't do this because of my transportation
                    situation. If there is somebody that is usually up
                    and about in the early morning say 2-4 am that would
                    be the time to kick out sleepers. The only way we
                    are going to solve the problem is to make it
                    consistently uncomfortable to sleep there.<br>
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              Strobe light?<br>
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              Boxing timer?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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