<div dir="ltr">This would also be solved by Members being around at night, SOMETIMES. That is when excellence is needed the most! </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Only once have I found a person who sleep at Noisebridge who didn't deny that they were sleeping. The rest are perfectly comfortable telling you that black is white. If you say sleeping is unexcellent but napping is okay, suddenly everyone will be "napping".<div>
<br></div><div>I think a "people found sleeping between 10pm and 10am during the week will be woken up and asked to leave the space the first time and banned the second time" rule would pretty much solve 90% of the problem. Maybe make the second time have to be within 30 days of the first?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Though I don't think even this compromise would pass consensus: the minority of people okay with people sleeping overnight or living in the space would block it.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I sometimes feel that sleeping vs resting eyes vs napping is akin to what color should we paint the bike shed? It just is easier to say the bike sheds we make are always going to be X color. Thats it. The differences between resting your eyes, napping and sleeping are almost irrelevant. It just leads to more discussion and wasted time when we could just deal with it one way or another and call the issue "CLOSED FIXED". </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM, John Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" target="_blank">neurofog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Al,</div><div><br></div>i'll start making morning appearances more often and see whos there and what they are working on in the space.<div><br></div><div>My concern was turning the "no overnight sleeping" policy into a witch hunt for napping or "closing ones eyes" when some people really do hack all night.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>John<br><div><br></div></div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">While it is fun to imagine technical solutions, it basically comes down to having people wake others up and making Noisebridge a place where people don't sleep overnight at.<div>
<br></div><div>Unfortunately, the sleepers both a) repeatedly sleep overnight even though they know the community overwhelmingly is against it but b) there's a minority of members who will block banning these sleepers from the space.<br>
<div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Alfred Perlstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bright@mu.org" target="_blank">bright@mu.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Wake up by Quadcopter and follow spot+PA.<br>
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YOU_YES..YOU!!! WAKE UP AND LEAVE BEFORE FORMAL TRESPASS
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If they damage the 'bot- slam dunk case for vandalism on top of
trespass seems logical. <br>
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<div>I can't do this because of my transportation
situation. If there is somebody that is usually up
and about in the early morning say 2-4 am that would
be the time to kick out sleepers. The only way we
are going to solve the problem is to make it
consistently uncomfortable to sleep there.<br>
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Strobe light?<br>
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Boxing timer?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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