<div dir="ltr">On a related note: This is a perfect example of how consensus stifles debate & communication instead of encouraging it: Leif didn't even have to block, he just had to say he would. That's enough to cause someone to quietly withdraw their proposal and no one else would ever know about.<div>
<br></div><div>-Al</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Point of fact: Leif never blocked his membership. Ron withdrew it.<div><br></div><div>Three people asked Leif why he said he'd block his membership; apparently they disagreed with his "Ron is a troll" accusation and probably thought he would be fine for membership.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't think Ron forgot it, but I can see why you are asking if he did: it's a two year old accusation.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><div><br></div><div>-Al</div></font></span><div>
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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:03 PM, bfb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net" target="_blank">bfb@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Omitting this information from discussion is classical "not on good faith". Ron, did you forget that Leif had blocked your membership?<div>
<br></div><div>-Kevin</div><div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Al Sweigart <u></u> <br>Date:01/30/2014 09:47 (GMT-08:00) <br>To: Leif Ryge <u></u> <br>Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <u></u> <br>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] History of my member page on the wiki <br><br><div dir="ltr">That was years ago, Leif. You're not exactly up on current events at Noisebridge. <a href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_01_28" target="_blank">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_01_28</a></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Leif Ryge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leif@synthesize.us" target="_blank">leif@synthesize.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 07:53:01PM -0800, Ronald Cotoni wrote:<br>
> I have no idea who changed it but my membership was never blocked. [...]<br>
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Huh? How can you say your membership was never blocked? We had a conversation<br>
about why I wasn't comfortable with you being a member, which resulted in you<br>
withdrawing your membership application. I'm quite certain that you interpreted<br>
this conversation (as I did) as me blocking your membership, because at least 3<br>
other people asked me later why I'd blocked your membership.<br>
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My primary reason for blocking your membership, as you'll recall, was that I<br>
believe your participation in Noisebridge meetings and discussions is largely<br>
disingenuous and "for the lulz" (read: you're a troll). Your claim above that<br>
your membership was "never blocked" after you'd specifically complained to<br>
other people that it was is a good example of this assessment being correct.<br>
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~leif<br>
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