<div dir="ltr">I am with what hep said. I am also with Naomi. This is a hackerspace. Lets hack the system and figure out how to solve problems. I am also with Al that I feel sad that UU had to even exist because noisebridge was not safe enough or good enough. I also understand that some people just like working with other females and don't even want to bother at this stage of their lives. I just feel it was mostly a response to Noisebridge not being safe and not the latter. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Naomi Most <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I am openly biased towards anarchism and lack of top-down control.<br>
But we can't keep shouting down the idea of "oversight" to address<br>
problems that Noisebridge has had for YEEAAARRRSSS when we've<br>
certainly given the Noisebridge traditional methods that long to fix<br>
things.<br>
<br>
For the record, I don't agree with the idea of direct<br>
people-management or in changing the way we arrive at decisions at<br>
Noisebridge. My idea of a positive change would be to have the board<br>
managing facilities and facilitating participation -- e.g. forming<br>
working groups. I believe these improvements will make a lot of the<br>
other crap die down naturally.<br>
<br>
And as it turns out, that's what we're going to do first.<br>
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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM, hep <<a href="mailto:dis@gruntle.org">dis@gruntle.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> And that would be different from what noisebridge has had in the last 5yr<br>
> how? as it stands, many women do not feel safe at noisebridge because of<br>
> sexual assault and the past somewhat failure to deal with it in a manner<br>
> where women felt safe and listened to at nb. many valuable contributing<br>
> people have left nb because of its failure to address major infrastructure<br>
> problems. if having a more active board helps to stop sexual abuse and makes<br>
> the culture more welcoming to those who would positively contribute, then i<br>
> am 100% down with active management. i would like noisebridge to be<br>
> somewhere i can bring friends to interest them in hacking, bring my<br>
> childrens' school championship robotics team to inspire them to the next<br>
> victory, not a place where i am fearful to go on my own because there are no<br>
> protections or infrastructure to ensure basic safety.<br>
><br>
> -hep<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Torrie Fischer <<a href="mailto:tdfischer@hackerbots.net">tdfischer@hackerbots.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I think it is important to note that in the context of a hackerspace,<br>
>> there is<br>
>> a difference between managing the infrastructure and managing the people<br>
>> who<br>
>> hack on the infrastructure.<br>
>><br>
>> From experience, just saying "active management" easily leads to bad times<br>
>> and, uh, rather verbose mailing list threads.<br>
>><br>
> --<br>
> hep<br>
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