<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Thanks for piping up, Rachel.</div><div><br></div><div>Yeah, it’s worth taking quite seriously the fact that Noisebridge as a group has never been “consensus trained”.</div><div><br></div><div>There was consensus-as-practiced among the original Noisebridge group, which “worked” fairly decently and resembled good consensus behavior, but mostly by dint of having a smaller, tight-knit community with far fewer ideological differences. </div><div><br></div><div>Now there is consensus-as-practiced in current Noisebridge, which has neither the advantage of a tight-knit community nor that of a strong tradition in a respectable consensus making manner.</div><div><br></div><div>I’m very much at odds with this whole “consensus doesn’t work” contention, largely due to the argument’s ever-more-obvious basis in misconceptions.</div><div><br></div><div>—Naomi</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Mar 14, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com">setient@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">YAY!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:33 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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In a recent email,<br>
On 3/14/2014 2:17 PM, Al Sweigart wrote:<br>
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No one owes anyone compromise or explanation when they block an item.<br>
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which is actually patently untrue and kind of an integral part of any consensus process - people willing to work with each other. I don't have a horse in the tom-jake argument, have seen them both be reasonable and not-reasonable at different times, and consider them both to be friends.<br>
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I have been meaning to write some ranty polemics to the list about how consensus works, since many of us seem to be missing some key things.<br>
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I just went off hiatus, kids. look out.<br>
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R.<br>
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