<div dir="ltr">yes. actually. They accepted us. Our boards were already made and the chip didn't come in time to change them. Our first app is on Android. <div><br></div><div>We didn't use LE in the past designs as it didn't have the bandwidth to let images and animations through the wireless pipeline. However, I'm open to new ideas and Broadcom's chip sounds interesting, can have a looky see. Thanks - A</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Tyler Freeman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tyler@odbol.com" target="_blank">tyler@odbol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
Hi Alison!<br>
<br>
Was wondering if you had an update on the cost of the MFI program? I
was under the impression you had to include Apple's special
authorization chip on your board to be part of it? Or have they
changed that requirement?<br>
<br>
Also, just wanted to let anyone considering the BlueGiga BLE112
know: Broadcom has just come out with a Bluetooth LE module, <a href="http://community.broadcom.com/community/wiced-smart" target="_blank">the
BCM20732S</a>, that's $10 less than the BlueGiga. Their SDK is
still a little early in development, but the price difference was
too good to pass up. We've switched to using it at DrumPants and
it's actually faster than the BlueGiga according to our initial
tests.<br>
<br>
Fun times!<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tyler</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>On 1/13/14 3:17 PM, Alison Lewis wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hope this discussion helped some others. Thanks
everyone! </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Alison
Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">We're doing some heavy image loading and the
BLE didn't have the throughput we needed. But this may be
solved later with some improved engineering on the app
side; I think a lot can be solved with clever
compression.
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>Here is an update on the MFI stuff. We got our
license. Took a little bit, but it was not as hard as
you think. Yea! It was free so far and took about 3
weeks! - Alison
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:58
PM, Tyler Freeman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tyler@odbol.com" target="_blank">tyler@odbol.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Coming in
to this rather late, but depending on your
needs, you should definitely consider going with
Bluetooth LE. It doesn't have as much
throughput, but is actually faster at connecting
and sending small packets of data (the whole
connect/send/disconnect process takes about 3ms,
compared to 200-500ms on classic Bluetooth). <br>
<br>
I'd recommend the BlueGiga BLE112: it offers a
very robust connection to iOS and is really easy
to set up. You can probably get it and have it
working in iOS within a day (compared to MFI
certification process which can take months and
$$$$$). <br>
<br>
Of course, if you're trying to stream lots of
data like a video or audio stream, BLE is not
for you.<br>
<br>
-Tyelr
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 12/20/13 2:40 PM, Anders Nelson
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Derp, I forgot to mention
everything MFI requires a considerable
investment (time or money) in firmware.
Microchip Technology offers a stack
here:
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/technology/smartphoneaccessory/tools/home.html" target="_blank">http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/technology/smartphoneaccessory/tools/home.html</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It provides an excellent API and is
the lowest cost option you'll likely
find.</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>--<br>
Anders Nelson<br>
<br>
<a href="tel:%2B1%20%28517%29%20775-6129" value="+15177756129" target="_blank">+1
(517) 775-6129</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.erogear.com" target="_blank">www.erogear.com</a></div>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 20,
2013 at 2:37 PM, Anders Nelson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders.k.nelson@gmail.com" target="_blank">anders.k.nelson@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Alison,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I handled the MFI program at
my previous job, so here's how
it works:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Some MFI-enabled radio
manufacturers embed the
Apple-specific authentication
chip into their module and I
believe you can buy said module
without having to go through
Apple's MFI certification.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-In order to use any IAP
commands outside of simple
remote controls
(play/pause/prev/next/etc.) your
hardware accessory must have an
MFI authentication chip onboard.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Bluetooth classic and dock
connector communication (via IAP
or the accessory framework) both
require an MFI chip. BTLE does <i>not</i> require
an MFI chip.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Bluetooth classic
communication is relatively fast
so I've heard. The dock
connector can only push 5-7kB
per second.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I suggest using BTLE to get
around the fruity bits.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>=]</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>--<br>
Anders Nelson<br>
<br>
<a href="tel:%2B1%20%28517%29%20775-6129" value="+15177756129" target="_blank">+1 (517)
775-6129</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.erogear.com" target="_blank">www.erogear.com</a></div>
<div>
<div> <br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:09
PM, Alison Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks
Eden. Thanks thats only
on LE. We've got an old
chip. Good info for the
future!!! - A</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Fri, Dec 20,
2013 at 12:12 PM,
Eden Sherry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:e@eden2.com" target="_blank">e@eden2.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>There are no
Apple restrictions
on the type of BLE
devices apps can
connect to, and no
Apple
certification to
go through.<br>
<br>
If you are having
issues seeing or
connecting to your
device, it is a
problem with the
device itself or
your iOS code.<br>
<br>
LightBlue is a
useful app to
sanity-check on
the phone side. If
your device is
advertising
correctly, it
should appear in
that app.<br>
<br>
Eden<br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
> On Dec
20, 2013, at
12:00 PM,
Alison Lewis
<<a href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
</div>
<div>
<div> > Hi
guys/gals,<br>
><br>
> Anyone
with BlueGiga
experience and
connecting
through iOS
devices? We
have a
BlueGiga and
no Apple
activation
chip. Have
some
questions,
here's the
first two:<br>
><br>
> Does the
company who
put on a
BlueGiga chip
need some sort
of apple chip
too?<br>
><br>
> Does the
company who
put on the
BlueGiga chip
need to go
through the
MFI program?
How fast can
you get
through it?<br>
><br>
> Is there
any work
around this
issue that
people have
dealt with
before?<br>
><br>
> Love to
talk to
someone that's
been through
this.<br>
><br>
> Gracias!
- Alison<br>
><br>
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