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<DIV>------ Original Message ------</DIV>
<DIV>From: "Al Sweigart" <<A href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</A>></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hey Johny, my concern with that proposal is that instead of one large group of people arguing with each other, it will be several small groups of people arguing within the group</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>how? You don't KNOW that, because it has not been tried. Why will small groups argue within themselves? </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN id=fa66ea2b356146eb9e4b7201c4cd7245>Not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that electronics hackers at NB should not form an electronics special interest group? <SPAN id=891d58e14e7046b6978c300b5a686982>How is my suggestion different than Naomi's working groups?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></SPAN>There are many reasons consensus is currently broken, like clogging it up with every issue, every activity, every conflict. <SPAN id=2d820c88153d401ebb60d0ba45aa91e1><SPAN id=b87c2b1aee8b41279902d71cc189c75a> </SPAN>People argue at NB meetings now, because they are usually not talking about concrete hacking needs-- it's all drama. That drama would be offloaded to the banning/mediation/grievance group. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Most electronics hackers at noisebridge are tight with each other. We support each other. We're friends and allies. <SPAN id=b87c2b1aee8b41279902d71cc189c75a>our needs are the same.</SPAN> I do believe decentralized decision-making can be highly effective. Just because Noisebridge has failed at making it work does not mean it's impossible. </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>There's no clear way to handle when decisions affect more than one group or even which groups they affect. </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Issues concerning the electronics workbench are clearly of concern to the electronics group, no? An electronics working group would make decisions about electronics. How is that complicated? </DIV>
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